‘Obamacare’ likely to survive, high court arguments indicate

Someone seems mad. I hope Amy was worth it, the other two definitely weren’t.

 

So much for packing the board with conservatives.

 

My current medical insurance premiums, which I just renewed today with my company, is just under $400 every two weeks. Prior to Obama it was $86.00 a month. On December 31, 2014, a med I used to take cost me $20.00 for a 3 month supply. On January 1, 2015, the cost went to $400 for a one month supply. It gets better. On December 31, 2014, a med my kid MUST have cost $23.00 for a three month supply. On January 1, 2015 the cost went up to $912.00 for a one month supply.

My blood tests used to be free, now they cost me $100.00. Keep in mind all insurance plans must be Obamacare complaint, so you can't blame my company for this.

Finally, in 2001 I had emergency open heart surgery. My total nut, and I mean everything, cost me $100. Four years ago I went for a stress test and they wanted $800.00 up front, in the past they were free. A month after that I had to get an angiogram performed and they wanted $8000.00 up front with the promise from me to pay more if complications developed. Obamacare was a disaster for me, but then again, Obama wasn't trying to buy my vote with it.

 

Much of the costs of healthcare are for the back office requirements obamacare mandates and mal practice insurance.

 

Under Obamacare my insurance went up by $3.14 per week. The deductible decreased (I don't remember by how much) but it was less then It was before. I got to keep all my doctors as well. For me Obamacare wasn't too bad.

 

Not my experience. My experience was very good.

It's understood that the law wasn't perfect for everyone, and needed fixing.

But, republicans don't want to fix it.


To scrap it, 20,000,000 that group of which I was part, would have no health care.

For me, it has been nothing but a positive experience, $132 per month, $10 copays, and I get $720 worth of drugs per month for $20. My deductible, which, in 7 years, I've only paid it once, was $500.

There were a lot of junk policies out there, which were cheap, but for catastrophic care, deny claims was happening a lot, might be paying for years, where they pay for doctor visits, until, maybe, one day, you get cancer, then they figure out ways to drop you.
Watch the video.

They didn't drop everyone, but they did deny claims to a lot of people, subpoening health records, looking for some pre-exisiting condition.

MOreover, preexisting conditions are no longer justification for being denied care. Disallowing it is going to drive up the cost, there is no way around that one, and republicans, not just dems, are not interested in losing that benefit.

If you are in a high income bracket, you are going to pay more for it than me ( I'm a retiree ).




In my view, the only way to get health care to everyone, is single payer.

 

Malpractice insurance including insurance, lawyers, jury consultants for and against the docs, the actual jury settlements, the extra charges for "defensive medicine", and everything else is estimated to be 2.7% TOTAL!

 

This is an article from The Atlantic in 2007-- God, how time flies-- about how much of the cost of medicine comes from these pricey, high-margin machines. I remember hearing about the story at the time but didn't read it. I was just prevented from reading it now because The Atlantic's website only allows you to read 2 free articles, & I used mine trying to locate this story. I don't know if the limit is per day or, ever. So, be warned those who follow the link: do no browsing beforehand.

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2009/08/welfare-dons/23952/

 

Roberts and Kavanaugh aren't deciding anything. To the contrary. Their opinion is that this is Congress' job, not theirs. Roberts used those words explicitly.

Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Brett Kavanaugh suggested Tuesday that it wasn't the Supreme Court's role to invalidate the entire sprawling, 900-page Affordable Care Act, even if one or more provisions are deemed unconstitutional, signaling the key parts of Obamacare will survive the latest court challenge.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...will-survive-latest-gop-challenge/ar-BB1aRTjt

 

It's the one or more unconstitutional provisions that make it necessary to strike down the whole act, or at least the parts that are unconstitutional. What the legislature refuses to do themselves, the court must do for them. The lawless, tyrannical, and unconstitutional acts of the Democrats cannot be allowed to stand.

 

First you wrote, "It is not for Roberts or Kavanaugh to decide." Now you claim it is for them to decide. Which is it?

 

I don't think they have trouble with 'overturning' it. It's the replacement part that has them speechless.

 

Put my quote in it's full context, and you won't have ask such wasteful questions.

 

So, you're torn between the two contradictory beliefs. Sorry to hear that.

The context of your position is clear; judicial activism is fine, as long as it achieves what you want.

 

Why replace bad with more bad? Just kill that turkey, and let the free markets do what free markets do.

 

With such high demand, those 'free markets' to which you refer can charge whatever they wish. That's why there has been such a push for the government (on both sides) to do something about healthcare coverage.

 

You seem unable to quote the word "unconstitutional?" Why is that? Does the word negate your argument?

 

When was healthcare and health insurance more affordable, in 2009 before Obamacare, or today with Obamacare?

 

???

We're discussing the SCOTUS, not your unqualified opinion on what is and isn't constitutional.

 

My premiums remained unchanged throughout Obamacare, but went up 50% after the individual mandate was struck down. So, for me, at least that part of the law was cost effective.

 

What makes you think you can discuss SCOTUS without discussing constitutionality?

 

At no time have I supported or promoted 'Obamacare'.

 

Because that's what we're doing?

Look, it's obvious you don't like Obamacare. That's fine. We all don't have to agree. The issue is whether removing the individual mandate makes the entire act unconstitutional. Kavanaugh and Roberts don't see it that way. They see such a decision as being the responsibility of Congress, not the Court. I thought the right was opposed to judicial activism, which is why your position is puzzling.

 

Yes, every republican who finally get honest and patriotic is a "RINO". How about those red states - Arizona, Michigan, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin? Are they all "RINOs" too? The real RINO is Trump and his band of followers. They've abandoned all conservatism.