“GOP embraces natural immunity as substitute for vaccines”

I prefer to listen to medical science.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...rotect-better-than-infection-induced-immunity

 

6 months ago I was only able to find 16 or so cases, worldwide, of twice infected people. I currently know of no one who has had Covid twice. How is what you say common sense, when it is basically nonexistent?

 

One study, and that study came with a “don’t try at home” warning, and Israel itself per capita vaccinates more citizens than anywhere else, so appears they themselves aren’t counting on natural immunity, too costly in terms of misery and death

And, other studies show the opposite:

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-studies-natural-immunity-versus-vaccination
https://apnews.com/article/coronavi...ous-diseases-92c435268078edced2a22068feb4fb3c
https://www.science.org/content/art...er-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...rotect-better-than-infection-induced-immunity
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/vaccine-induced-immunity.html
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00219-6/fulltext
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covi...5-times-more-protective-than-natural-immunity

 

Why do you people keep coming back with antidotal narratives?

“More people are getting Covid-19 twice, suggesting immunity wanes quickly”
https://www.science.org/content/art...-twice-suggesting-immunity-wanes-quickly-some

 

The Republicans, who are often wrong, are 100% right on this one. Natural Immunity is far far far superior to the vaccines.

In fact, can anyone give me the statistics on how many of those with natural immunity have been hospitalized or died from CV-19 after they have recovered from it initially?

Nope? Why not? Where is the amount of people hospitalized or dead from a re-infection? Wait... you can't find any? Why is that?

The CV-19 virus appears to produce B Cells WITH NO HALF LIFE DEGRADATION and T Cells that last decades. That means, like the Spanish Flu, you can be 90 years old and have caught in in your 20's and still have immunity with Hospitalization and Death being no threat to you or ANYONE like you.

The next time some idiot says a person with natural immunity needs the jab, refer them to the La Jolla Study, the Cleveland Study, and the fact that NO ONE is dying or hospitalized from CV-19 after they have recovered from it. That is only those that got vaccinated and are "Break Through Cases".

Natural Immunity is the ONLY way we reach Herd Immunity. The vaccines help people survive it appears, which is great, but after they have survived and now have natural immunity... they are DONE DONE DONE.

 

Medical science that acknowledges its study could be flawed, and more research is needed?

 

My money is on medical science not giving your anecdotal input on this much credence either.

 

I read your article. It says that only a few hundred people, worldwide, have had confirmed reinfections. Up from 16 a few months ago when I checked. Those facts alone lean toward strong immunity from a prior infection.

 

Not anecdotal. From the CDC website 4-6 months ago: Reinfections are rare.

 

^^^^ This 100%

That is the whole point.

PEOPLE DO NOT GET REINFECTED AND HOSPITALIZED OR DIE.

Natural Immunity is far far far far superior to the vaccines.

 

Reinfections occur, I know an RN that almost died on the 2nd contraction. The science is clear, the vaccine is the most effective.

 

What medical science ? You haven't the firsts clue about medical science. Where are these re-infections .. what are the numbers ... what is this "medical science" you are referring to. Anecdotes from the other side matter not .. it is up to those supporting these insane Anti-Science mandates to give the science.

Where are the numbers .. how many who had covid - not severely immune compromized - Obese - and 3 comorbidities - are showing up at the hospital with re-infection.

Speaking of Anecdotal gibberish .. but nevermind --- where is this clear science that the vax is better than natural immunity.

Is this the "Science" you are referring to ?

Study: COVID recovery gave Israelis longer-lasting Delta defense than vaccines
The variant was 27 times more likely to break through Pfizer protection from January-February and cause symptoms than it was to penetrate natural immunity from the same period https://www.timesofisrael.com/study...s-longer-lasting-delta-defense-than-vaccines/

 

Because it IS a substitute for vaccines. There is no need to get an injection for a disease that one has already acquired natural immunity to. In fact, it could **** up the natural immunity.

It is not a "new weapon". Natural immunity has existed since the beginning of mankind.

Yes, a person who has recovered from the virus has immunity to it. It lasts for a lifetime. That's how it's always been.

Let's review just a few DEM and left's lies regarding Covid:

Nobody claimed that it would. COVID, like any other disease of the sort, is here to stay and is now a part of the viral landscape.

I'm not sure what the claim here is... if it is that more people die of suicide than of COVID, then the answer is a resounding YES.

Nobody has said this. People have said that COVID is no more serious than a common cold or flu, and those people are correct.

COVID fear mongering is a hoax, yes. Government officials only put on their masks for the TV screen and then immediately take them off afterwards and constantly get caught not wearing them when out and about.

People are having their immune systems ruined as a result of the mRNA jabs, and are dying from side effects of the mRNA jabs.... COVID cases are increasing now because it is now Winter flu season. COVID in and of itself does not kill anyone.

COVID doesn't need to be "controlled".

Made-up number... The vast majority of COVID cases do not develop into life threatening situations.

Correct. It isn't.

Nobody said this... It is forever in our viral landscape now.

It's not affecting children near as much or as bad as elderly adults with multiple comorbidities.

They don't. COVID is too small and goes right through mask pores.

They are completely fabricated.

Every nation is "developed" to some degree. Many nations have less cases than the former USA, while many other nations have more cases. Meh.

DEFINITELY!

Made-up number, but yes, a bunch of people who wear masks are still catching COVID. That's because masks don't protect people from COVID.

More testing results in more cases being identified (whether truthfully or falsely), so yes that's true.

NOBODY dies FROM covid... People can and do die from covid-induced pneumonia, but not from covid itself.

... is an effective covid treatment, as is ivermectin.

... is a great disinfectant.

what about them?

They aren't working for a number of reasons. -- [1] Many people who are getting vaccinated are still getting COVID. [2] Many people who are getting vaccinated are still dying with COVID. [3] Many people who are getting vaccinated are still too scared to live their life as they did pre-2020. For those reasons, and others, vaccinations are not working.

BINGO!

 

No you don't. She would be a MASSIVE OUTLIER.

Virtually no one, out of 30,000,000 Americans infected have been re-hospitalized or died from re-infection. NO ONE!

However, out of those that were vaccinated TONS AND TONS AND TONS are being re-infected with "Break Through" cases. We all know someone like my Mom that got it after her vaccines. Now, I will say that the vaccines may have saved her life as the infection was not as bad. But now, now she has NATURAL IMMUNITY and is truly safe, cannot transmit it, and can help in the herd immunity event. That's what vaccines are truly good for. If someone has already had it... THEY HAVE ZERO NEED FOR THE VACCINE.

 

If I could only "Like" a post more than once... this one would get it.

Well done.

 

It's an absolutely factual list, many of which Trump can be quoted on.

 

What the **** does he know? Especially when compared to the richest/smartest man in the world and our BESTEST President EVAR.

 

It 's nice to see that so many right wingers are willing to gamble with their lives, and the lives of their loved ones????

 

None that I know of

Does it? What does the science say?

https://www.umms.org/coronavirus/covid-vaccine/facts/immunity

Oh wait, I'm sorry. The U of MD are buncha commies, I think Glenn Beck says so.

 

Just to help you out. Your link has some good information, but is also out of date. There are studies on the duration of CV-19 Natural Immunity. The Cleveland Study and La Jolla Study are just two examples. More importantly, virtually no one has caught it twice and been hospitalized/died. We can't say that about those with the vaccine.

CV-19 Natural Immunity per these studies is robust, powerful, and may last a life time similar to the Spanish Flu.

 

Thank you. I try my best to properly educate people about a variety of topics.

 

Or anything else for that matter. If you're willing to let your unbounded admiration for an ignorant con man make you risk getting an agonizing and often fatal disease then I'm not going to listen to you in regard to anything, No, wait, I will listen to what you advise, and then do the exact OPPOSITE.

 

Dude... once again. People that already caught CV-19 are not hospitalized. They do not die. There is zero need for them to take a vaccine for something they have immunity over.

Science says that those with CV-19 antibodies, T Cells, B Cells can just live there lives with no worries at all and they bring Herd Immunity.

 

I provided a link about the covid vaccine vs natural immunity. The covid vaccine was better, read the article.

 

I provided a link to this issue. Internet doctors can say whatever they want.