11 Native American Tribes, Including The Two Largest, Prohibit Gay Marriage !

Let's see gay groups go after them😉 Who would win? Two overly protected PC groups battling it out. Whoever is the loudest can pull the race and discrimination card and they can trade it back forth like IDIOTS!!

 

"I told my Native American parents I was bisexual. Now they tell everyone I'm a Bison."

 

At least they will have somewhere to move to when that happens.

 

I thought everyone was aware of that which is why the "tail wagging the dog" thing did not make much sense to me when the poster responded with that. I have not been debating whether or not the tribes should be pressured to change their current polices as I thought the history of gays in Native American tribes and how they are perceived now as compared to pre-colonization was far more relevant and interesting. Reading about this issue has been an education...

 

Re-read the OP. The U.S. Government has 0% control what happens on Sovereign Nation Tribal land. There are 4 tribal casinos within driving distance from me, they don't even have to comply with labor law if they don't want to.

 

Perhaps you should re-read my post. I never said anything contrary to your point.

What I said was that when gay marriage is upheld by the courts the vast majority of people will have access to gay marriage. If a native american wishes to leave a tribe that bans it to marry someone of the same sex under U.S. law...its not hard for them to do as they have dual citizenship already.

So in essence....OP is trying to say there is a problem...when in reality there isn't.

 

The left does not get riled up because they know it is all bull(*)(*)(*)(*)e. "Deep & Wide, History tells us so" La la la la la la. Ain't yawll never heard of "two sprirt"? How about BERDACHE?

 

Even in the 1970 movie "Little Big Man", they depict how a tribal member's being gay was readily accepted within his tribe. That move was making many political statements and that was one of them.

IMO..the OP's intent of starting this thread was to point out some type of hypocrisy, but it actually opened so many more interesting historical facts on the issue of being gay within the Native American nation.

"Little Big Man" was a great movie, btw.

 

I completely agree. That was a great movie.

 

That is exactly what they did in order to take their land and much worse.

 

This is another little interesting tidbit of news:

Warren's great-great-great grandmother on her mother's side was Cherokee, making Warren—provided the genealogist didn't miss anything—1/32 Native American if her great-great-great grandmother was full-blooded (that's unclear). Warren has said that both of her mother's parents had American Indian blood, in which case the fraction would obviously be a little bit bigger. (It's plausible that some of Warren's relatives would have masked their Cherokee heritage, given the legally prescribed second-class citizenship bestowed upon American Indians for much of the 20th century.) Per newspaper clippings released by her campaign, other members of Warren's family, including a first cousin, have embraced their Cherokee roots and are active in American Indian causes in Oklahoma, where she grew up.

Here's Margery Eagan:

How long before wise guys in feathered headdresses start dancing around parking lots at your events? Somebody told me yesterday your campaign needs to lie low and "circle the wagons." Whoops. That same someone quickly realized it was the pioneers who circled the wagons when your Cherokee ancestors were blazing across the prairie on the warpath.

Whoops. The Cherokee were forcibly removed from their home in the Southeast at gunpoint and relocated to Oklahoma. Kind of a famous incident. Anyway, Warren's in a tough spot. But did she actually do anything out of the ordinary?

 

Good you.

I learned a little something by piggybacking on your learning, too. Thank you.

 

My pleasure... It is fascinating isn't it? I don' t know if you read my other post where I referenced the film "Little Big Man", but whenever I would see the film, which is many times, I would always wonder about that gay Cheyenne character and think to myself...sure, why wouldn't there be homosexual tribe members. I never thought to research the topic until this thread was posted.

Thanks OP...for inadvertently getting the better of my intellectual curiosity.

 

Back at me with "Two-Spirit" People?

Pass that peace pipe, don't be a bogart!

 

excellent insertion of your xenophobic rants where Christianity wasn't even part of the discussion.

 

It is the explanation of why and how the Native American's culture concerning homosexuality was altered. But just maybe if you read thru the thread you would not have taken things out of context. Maybe you should point out where I posted anything that was not factual concerning the treatment of Native Americans by so called righteous people.

 

they accepted homosexuality prior to Christian intervention. It's laughable your ability to bash Christians in any thread, even the ones that they aren't involved in. You seem to have no \issues giving Islam a pass on throwing gays off the roof today, but Christians 400 years ago is still why native American can't be blamed for their policys today.



have fun.... #agendaexposed

 

You are searching for reason to vent some gripes and pick a dumb argument...and obviously have zero to contribute to the topic at hand. I'm not at all interested in playing that game so I suggest you find someone else to indulge you.

 

What I can't understand is why Obama wasn't blamed for anything. Surely there must have been some way to drag him into the discussion.

 

Give it a chance...it will undoubtedly happen sooner or later.

 

You just did.

 

Oh look you quoted huffpo. Your post would carry more weight and credibility if you used credible sources.

 

Sorry your highness I did not realize every thread on this forum was "brought solely to you". It is good that you do not care though. I believe the entire gay cause is not worth caring about.

 

The funny thing is that most Western leftists would act so surprised about it.

Let's face it, outside of European-derived society nobody cares about homosexuals, and nor did any European-derived society up until last century. African police in countries like Zambia (which is far-left economically) regularly arrest them. Both African left/right hate them. Mugabe- another economic far-leftist- compares them to dogs and pigs and his quotes concerning his views can be found all over the internet (and the Western left were so enamoured with him during the 1970's). And with the exception of crime infested Thailand (where even pedophilia is common), no Asian country has any time for them either. As European population declines and non-European population increases rapidly over this century, the homosexuals will rapidly lose anything they've "gained" over the past 60 or so years- especially after non-Europeans become the major voting bloc.

 

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