$14 trillion reparations for US slavery and Jim Crow?

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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of modern day slavery...Epstein anybody?
     
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    All government social programs are about robbing Peter to pay Paul. It appears to be too popular with vote buyers to be a worry about being constitutional.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bad analogy, we celebrate the guy who died to stop a rape.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A.c.t.u.a.l.l.y. WHO says you can change your gender but not your race?
    I suggest that once the Woke win this war about a guy being a woman today
    and back to a guy tomorrow (with all its devastating consequences) that the
    Woke will look for new issues - and why not consider race to be just another
    social construct? After all - the same people say 'there's no such thing as race'
    So you can be a white man today, a black man tomorrow and a white woman
    the day after. Mad? No madder than what is happening now.

    It's sad that the appeal of Martin Luther King (himself a rapist and sexist pig)
    that we don't judge people by their skin has been discarded. I suggest the
    holiday in his name be scrapped.
     
  5. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    I found out fairly recently that one of my Great, Great Grandfathers owned slaves up until the late 1850s when he got rid of them after seeing that "slavery was on its way out".
     
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    every black American today is just as responsible for all of America's past as every white person is

    none of us alive today were slaves, slave owners, or those that risked life or limb to free the slaves

    we are all Americans equally
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you're blaming all white people, the white people that risked their lives and livelihood to free the slaves were not all slave owners, where did you get that?

    what happened to the salves was wrong, inhuman and evil, those that died to free the slaves were heroes

    should take down the Confederate statues and put up statues of those people
     
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    Bad analogy, you celebrate a guy who stopped raping. Slavers White privilege
     
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    Is he going to get back the 14 billion our evil, racist system allowed him to earn?
     
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    Actually, biology did that.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Esau - the home of slavery is Africa.
    Africa invented slavery
    Africa will be the last nation to stop slavery

    Many Americans were not comfortable with fellow citizens having slaves,
    and eventually the issue led to a Civil War, of which half a million people
    died.

    White people stopped most slavery in Africa.
    White people stopped slavery in the Middle East.

    There are not comfortable facts to racist and haters.
     
  12. Esau

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    Actually whites invented race, its also not scientific. There is no such thing.
     
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    Poo, whites invented race based slavery. You appear to be deflecting from this fact.

    The devils greatest trick was convincing the world he didnt exist: the meaning of this statement is misunderstood. What it really means is that white colonialism has been glamourized instead of villified.
     
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    Whoever told you that - they're lying.
     
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    Whoever told you otherwise is lying.

    :sleeping:
     
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    You are making some distinction between 'race based slavery' and 'ordinary slavery' ????
    In the Americas every native tribe hated every other tribe. Killing and slavery were par for
    the course. Same in Africa, only there you have some slightly different - many tribes were
    of different ethnic groups because Africa is racially diverse. So Bantus could keep other
    Bantu tribesmen as slaves, but they might have kept Sans, Yoruba, Kru, Chadic as slaves
    too. Makes no difference.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, SOME whites believe 'there's no such thing as race.'
    It's taught in universities and its as false as they one they
    used to teach 30 years ago, "Cannibalism is a racial construct
    and never existed.'
    Well, cannibals did exist, and race exists. If you line up an
    Ethiopian, a pygmy, a Han Chinese, a Caucasian and a
    Polynesian I am sure I can tell which of the five belongs to
    which race.
     
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    Im not sure what this has to do with my statement that white ppl invented RBCS (RACE BASED CHATTEL SLAVERY)
     
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    No, white folks invented race. Not sure how your essay denies this factual statement. Race is just another white lie
     
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    Can you cite something that said Cannibalism never existed?
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Actually no, because it's in the old pre-internet text books. But of course, it's highly
    believable that some pre-Woke wokers felt that white people were trying to besmirch
    the natives. In fact account of Columbus concerning cannibalism were written off as
    racist comments. It wasn't until scientists studied the brain disease 'kuru' in Pueblo
    Indians that cannibalism was addressed in earnest, and honestly.
     
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    Well, I MYSELF can tell some races apart. It's easy - one person is small and black
    and comes from the Congo and another is white, fat and lives in Fiji - and you have
    to guess which one is from Congo. How would YOU go?
    Pygmies are one of the oldest of all races on earth. Polynesians are one of the most
    recent.
     
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    Over a million young white Europeans were sold into the slave markets of the
    Middle East. Nice looking ones attracted higher prices. That sounds like race
    based chattel slavery to me.
     
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    Seeing that our founding Fathers were born into a world which was immersed in slavery of and by every race. And seeing that the United States of America was born into that world. Then slavery was more of a given, a constant, or status quo, rather than something invented. That it was, in the proper season, acknowledged and chosen to be ended and done away, along with the efforts to cling to that mentality/spirit in the following Jim Crowe laws which were also broken, stripped and done away with. Then the concept of reparations is redundant as the true prize is freedom. One rejoices at the dawn and sets forth, not spends the day lamenting the former night....thus losing the day, the prize and freedom. Reparations then is the buying and selling of freedom, much like the buying and selling of slaves. It seems that the spirit of slavery is persistent in the human soul. Not only the want to enslave, but the desire to be enslaved. Case in point are black Americans who were free, but chose to shackle themselves to welfare and the government dole, destroying their family structure, abolishing marriage, Husbands, and Fatherhood, and looking to the government for instruction as if there were no such thing as freedom. They are ruined, angry and servile by their own choice. It reminds me of Gods people in the book of Isaiah, chapter 52:

    1Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean.

    2Shake thyself from the dust; arise, and sit down, O Jerusalem: loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion.

    3For thus saith the LORD, Ye have sold yourselves for nought; and ye shall be redeemed without money. 4For thus saith the Lord GOD, My people went down aforetime into Egypt to sojourn there; and the Assyrian oppressed them without cause. 5Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD; and my name continually every day is blasphemed. 6Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.

    7How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!

    8Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing: for they shall see eye to eye, when the LORD shall bring again Zion.

    9Break forth into joy, sing together, ye waste places of Jerusalem: for the LORD hath comforted his people, he hath redeemed Jerusalem.

    10The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.
     

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