$14 trillion reparations for US slavery and Jim Crow?

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Nobody, including Americans, ever chose one race for "perpetual" slavery. Many thousands of blacks became freemen in America, and this was well before 1865.

    That being said American slavery was very close.

    I don't agree with reparations generally, because then we'd have to have the Romans paying the British and the French. (With certain very gruesome exceptions, like salt mines, Roman slaves had lives that were generally better than just about anyone but the warrior nobility in the barbarian tribes.) In things like the Tulsa massacre, however, where the injustice is very recent and the victims are very well known I think it's justified, but they weren't slaves in any case so general rules of Equity law can be brought to bear.

    "Human nature" doesn't have slavery throughout most of human history. It's VERY common mind, but there are whole millennia when it's nearly unknown even in areas having the requisite social stratification. You have to have a real surplus of labor as well which is why it declined so precipitately when the Roman Empire declined.
     
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    Races are meaningless groupings of people with various collections of physical similarities, like people with blonde hair or blue eyes. Or like short people
     
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    I don't mean its human nature to have slaves, but that human nature is fearful
    of 'the other.' Back then this 'other' was in competition with you.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, it DOES matter that King was sexist to the extreme. What matters
    in this forum is the issue of slavery - that's what I meant.
     
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    Short man syndrome is a real thing
     
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    Based on this comment I suppose you oppose Biden’s open racism towards whites?
     
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    I don't understand how he would even qualify. His ancestors were never slaves in the US.
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    So that means short people should be discriminated against for things that have nothing to do with being short?

    My father-in-law stopped drinking after he got in a fight and thought he'd killed these two guys who made a joke about his height. Does that mean we should incarcerate Tom Cruise as potentially violent?
     
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    Just trying to break the seriousness bud
     
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    Was he? What are examples of this? Because the search engine tells me his actual problem was not that he hated women, but he probably loved women a little bit more than he should have.

    I'm sorry to tell you, but it doesn't make you look good when you try to throw historical heroes under the bus and don't back your accusation with any type of source. Can you imagine somebody doing the same thing to you? It wouldn't feel nice, wouldn't it?
     
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    I am not American but I happen to like King.
    And I like JF Kennedy too - he was the sole
    person in that White House meeting that did
    not want war with the Soviets over Cuba -
    in a sense he saved all our lives. But I can
    say that Kennedy was a cheating womanizer
    because he was.
    Same with King. Women told stories of being
    recruited to his campaign staff on the basis of
    their looks, and having King force himself onto
    them. That's history, but it's not relevant to the
    causes King espoused.
     
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    $14 trillion reparations for US slavery and Jim Crow?

    Why not. They just need to water the money trees. Money, as we all know, is free and unlimited for government. Just ask the DNC. It makes we wonder why they bother with taxation.
     
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