16 is the suitable Age of Consent for the US (Read)

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by DevilMayhem666, Jan 7, 2013.

?

Is 16 the appropriate AOC for the US?

  1. Yes

    10 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. No

    10 vote(s)
    50.0%
  1. DevilMayhem666

    DevilMayhem666 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2012
    Messages:
    326
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    18
    The best thing to do is to talk to your daughter and explain why that relationship is bad idea.
     
  2. SiliconMagician

    SiliconMagician Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2010
    Messages:
    18,921
    Likes Received:
    446
    Trophy Points:
    0
    From what I'm aware of, in the State of Ohio the age of legal consent is 16 within 2 years.

    So an 18 year old and a 16 year old could legally have sex.

    A 16 year old and 19 and above? no.

    I would want legal recourse to protect my daughter's 16 year old (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) from men 21 and up for sure. No 21 year old has any business having a girlfriend younger than 18. None.
     
  3. Texsdrifter

    Texsdrifter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2012
    Messages:
    3,140
    Likes Received:
    171
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I few year ago when I was 35 working out of town for a year and a half, I happen to work with a very attractive 19 year old that tested my will power to the extreme. She was just too child like emotionally even though she was full grown and very legal. While I still kick myself to this day for refusing her advances it was the moral decision to make.


    So on the age of consent being 16, would that include when they could quit school or leave home as well?
    That would be part of my concern as well.
     
  4. DevilMayhem666

    DevilMayhem666 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2012
    Messages:
    326
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Untrue.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#Ohio

    Is this out of a vague sense of mortality?
     
  5. SiliconMagician

    SiliconMagician Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2010
    Messages:
    18,921
    Likes Received:
    446
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Regardless of whether it is out of personal morality or not. I'm the parent and if I have enough parents who agree with me, then we have legal rights to have laws passed whether you agree with our moral position or not.

    If enough people share a certain moral value, democracy means we can impose those values upon you and punish you legally if you refuse to follow them.
     
  6. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,139
    Likes Received:
    4,912
    Trophy Points:
    113
    See this is why these laws are so weird for a number of reasons. I think that some of these kids are mature enough to make their own decisions but I have a problem with a 17 year old being able to have sex with a 13 year old even if it's only a 4 year gap.

    Many teenagers actually graduate high school at 17. I have a problem with a high school graduate being able to have sex with an 8th grader...
     
  7. DevilMayhem666

    DevilMayhem666 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2012
    Messages:
    326
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    18
    I'm the type of person who would have took her up on that offer.

    No, they are still under your control until they reached the age of majority or emancipation.
     
  8. DevilMayhem666

    DevilMayhem666 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2012
    Messages:
    326
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Ah, the tyranny of the majority. Its best to just go with Philly's policies regarding this. No need to pretend that a 16 year old lacks the mental ability to consent to sex with anyone 16 and up.
     
  9. DevilMayhem666

    DevilMayhem666 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2012
    Messages:
    326
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Yeah, its the same here in Jersey and I don't approve of it either.
     
  10. CKW

    CKW Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2010
    Messages:
    15,420
    Likes Received:
    3,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    A 16 year old girl or boy in this day and age especially---is not mature enough to consent to sex with a 20 something. Or 30 something. And I have trouble understanding why some people want laws to encourage that type of relationship.
     
  11. CaptBlackEagle

    CaptBlackEagle New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2013
    Messages:
    26
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    How old are you? Your age +5 should do quite well.
     
  12. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,139
    Likes Received:
    4,912
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well the laws that "encourage" that are already in place.

    Plus a 16 year old teenager is mature enough to be tried as an adult to sent to adult prison because the law deems them fully competent enough to know that murdering someone is wrong. Yet these same teenagers aren't mature enough to consent to sex?
     
  13. Texsdrifter

    Texsdrifter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2012
    Messages:
    3,140
    Likes Received:
    171
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Yes, I would but even though 16 is sexually mature it is not emotionally mature. My daughter is only 3 so thankfully I have over a decade before she reaches that age. Even then it would be hard to accept her having sex at 16 even with someone her own age. Someone much older, at the best I would go "captain caveman" on him at worse death by paper cut with lots of salt and rubbing alcohol involved.
     
  14. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,139
    Likes Received:
    4,912
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Which is why I am so glad that I have a son...Teens have sex, I get it. Its one of those things that many teens do. I don't worry about my son very much in that aspect just like my father didn't worry about me much in that aspect. But if I had a daughter? Game on. She'd be hard pressed to find a bf that I approved of when she turned 25...
     
  15. CKW

    CKW Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2010
    Messages:
    15,420
    Likes Received:
    3,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You are incorrect on all counts. The law is not in place---everywhere. It is state by state. And such a law should be dealt with on a state by state basis.

    And juveniles are very rarely considered an adult. Only when the crime is extremely heinious.

    Its not even close to the same thing. For the most part, 16 year olds ARE NOT held accountable like adults are.
     
  16. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,139
    Likes Received:
    4,912
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So how exactly do we decide which 16 year olds are mature enough or which are not? And the law is in place in most states. The age of consent is under the age of 18 in a lot of places.
     
  17. Texsdrifter

    Texsdrifter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2012
    Messages:
    3,140
    Likes Received:
    171
    Trophy Points:
    63
    My wife was pregnant with my daughter at the time, the other girl was also married with a small child. So it was more than just the age that prevented it. I do believe that was the deciding factor. I would have felt like I was taking advantage of her. As I said I still regret it but believe I made the correct decision.

    The age of consent in both Texas and Arkansas is 17(I believe) which to me is acceptable since that is how it has been since I was a child. If they are protected from adults one year is not that big of a deal I suppose. However I still not sure why it would be worth changing the law. I have known people that would start smoking at 18 because it was legal and made them feel more adult like. Same with 21 and alcohol. I never waited till I was legal for any of them personally.
     
  18. DevilMayhem666

    DevilMayhem666 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2012
    Messages:
    326
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Like I said in the OP consent is about the mental capacity to make an intelligent decision. If they have been well informed about sex and its consequences(via sex ed) then they can indeed be intelligent enough to know they are doing like any older person based on the sources I cited from the American Psychological Association.

    Just tell him to back off. The law will have your back if he doesn't since she is under your control and if you brought her up right she will respect your wishes.

    True, but only 8 states in the US and 40 countries outlaw sexual relationships between 16 year olds and 20 somethings. Even in states where the Age of Consent is supposedly 18 Florida allows 16 years to have sex with people up to 23 years old, Delaware has it up to 29, and Utah has it up to 25.
     
  19. Texsdrifter

    Texsdrifter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2012
    Messages:
    3,140
    Likes Received:
    171
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I have a 17 year old son and always felt the same way as you. Then after I thought I was done surprise. I suppose it is sexist to a certain extent but also remembering how we were and what we wanted the girls for when we were young. I caught lots of heat from friends and family when I found out it was going to be a girl I said I hope she was a lesbian. I actually just want her to be happy and healthy, but I think I have a better chance of surviving her teens and early 20's if she was.
     
  20. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,139
    Likes Received:
    4,912
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Indeed. I always wanted a boy for those exact reasons, and well because as a man I just wanted a boy. I would feel sorry for my daughter if I had one. I know me. She'd be that poor teenager going to school with a uniform on whether it was mandatory or not. She would hate my guts...

    Oh I remember prom night well...and remembering my own prom night I would be the dad that takes his own daughter to prom. Don't worry honey I'll be your date. I'll be **** if somebody does to my daughter what us boys were doing to girls at our age lol.
     
  21. DevilMayhem666

    DevilMayhem666 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2012
    Messages:
    326
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    18
    In that case I would have made the same decision as you did.
     
  22. DevilMayhem666

    DevilMayhem666 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2012
    Messages:
    326
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Lesbian are really male brains in a female body. Studies say their brains are shaped like a guy's, I'm not even joking. So those lesbians lusting after your daughter would be like a guy lusting after her. You better hope she's asexual.
     
  23. Texsdrifter

    Texsdrifter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2012
    Messages:
    3,140
    Likes Received:
    171
    Trophy Points:
    63
    LOL, we can always dream, yes I would rather celibacy be her choice. As I said I really just want her to be happy and healthy. I am protective of my babies and I still consider my 17 year old son my baby.( he is not fond of being called that) My little girl just scares the hades out of me. I will be 59 when she is 23 doesn't help those fears. I was pretty wild when I was younger so doubtful I will be in good shape by then.
     
  24. SiliconMagician

    SiliconMagician Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2010
    Messages:
    18,921
    Likes Received:
    446
    Trophy Points:
    0
    So keep her constantly occupied with lots of activities and don't allow her to attend parties, sleep overs etc unless they are held under your direct supervision. In today's decadent world, I'm of the opinion that only an authoritarian tiger parent is capable of doing it succesfully.
     
  25. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,139
    Likes Received:
    4,912
    Trophy Points:
    113
    My daughter would have one of those GPS tracker things on her ankle...Poor girl...I really hope I never have a daughter lol
     

Share This Page