2 shot, 1 dead in Chaz

Evasion noted.

 

LOL - I'm not going to respond to every out of context claim of quotes coming from you.

If you want to make a claim, then document it.

And, stop taking tiny fragments out of context while you're at it.

 

There was a scene of fire though.



https://komonews.com/news/local/det...pecting-of-setting-fire-outside-east-precinct

Detectives looking for man suspected of setting fire outside East Precinct

Which was the more accurate depiction of CHAZ? Fox's doctored version, or the mayor of Seattle's "summer of love" and "block party" descriptions?

 

I claim that Fox's doctored version of CHAZ was a much more accurate depiction of the reality of CHAZ than the mayor of Seattle's description of CHAZ as a "block party" and a "summer of love".

That's my claim, and plenty of supporting documentation has been provided.

 

People protesting across the country are the ones tryin to address and change REAL and festering issues. It all keeps getting excused or denied. This isn't a protest, go home and we trust you to make things right.
What happened in Capital Hill was unacceptable, but unfortunately, irresponsible idiots are mixed in every crowd.

 

The police lost the trust and faith of the community.

Yes, that's a big loss - policing IS something that is needed, and EVERYBODY knows that. However, it has to be policing that retains the trust and support of the community.

Other means of working toward change in police accountability, community review of police actions, police methods and weapons, etc., have been ongoing for years.

Some progress has been made, but not nearly enough.

Your comments about thugs and jails emptying is just plain total BS. You need to confine yourself ot actual issues and events if you want to be taken seriously.

Please document your claim that 15 people died.

You can't just make claims like that without substantiation.

 

https://disrn.com/news/the-16-people-who-have-died-in-the-riots-following-george-floyds-death

The 17 people who have died in the protests and riots so far



And counting.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/20/us/seattle-capitol-hill-chop-chaz-shooting/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/21/us/minneapolis-shooting.html

 

If Fox couldn't count on you liking their fake news, they might have to start reporting the truth!!

 

You didn't address my claim.

Evasion noted.

 

Thanks for backing me up bro . It's always nice to have a helping hand.

 

So much for you having a principled position.

 

1. We were discussing CHOP in Seattle - not the freaking world.

2. Your list includes right wing Boogaloo murders of policemen. Pretending those were the result of protests is just plain silly.

3. You included at least one killing by officers shooting into a crowd.

4. YES, we need police. NOBODY disagrees with that.

5. YES, protests do sometimes attract rioters who have no interest in the issues AT ALL. That's not a justification for suggesting that the free speech rights of protests must be eliminated.

Your arguments have to be better than what you've posted so far.

 

The leftist mob protest riots are going to kill more black people than the total number of unarmed black people that were killed by police in all of 2019. Matter of fact, it's pretty likely that they already have.

Because black lives matter.

 

Citations needed for number 2 and 3 on your list.

You're a stickler for demanding substantiation, so I trust it will be forthcoming.

 

Protestors IMMEDIATLY worked to extingush that fire.

And, there was no damage to that precinct building.

And, once again you claim statements that you FAIL TO CITE.

There IS a "Capitol Hill Block Party" in Seattle every year. A good number of city blcoks roughly in the area of CHOP are cordoned off for a few days, with food, many music stages, etc., going on into the night. It is an even that requires tickets, involves security, etc.

What's up with that this year IS an issue. Tickets are being sold now (unless someone stopped that). There are LOTS of obvious issues with this.

YOU want to make random references to the Capitol Hill Block Party some sort of indication of somethin YOU seem to hate.

So.

CITE YOUR QUOTE.

OR GO AWAY. There is no way to comment on your quote without knowing the context.

 

Read your own cite!!!

Good LORD!!

 

How does the following not falsify #4-

Opinion | Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police - The New ...
www.nytimes.com › Opinion › Sunday Review

Jun 12, 2020 - Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police. Because reform won't happen. By Mariame Kaba. Ms. Kaba is an organizer against criminalization.



Is there an alternative definition of "abolish" that I'm not aware of?

 

I see nothing about Boogaloos killing cops. Please provide substantiation.

 

These same people are ready to discuss what the replacement needs to be for police foreces that are abolished.

One big question is whether a city like Minneapolis can afford to have ANY of its police staff hold over into a new solution.

As a sign, "abolish" is a well understood short term that strongly suggests that the existing force would have no further role. After all, they elected white supremacist leadership, have all had the same trainingj, and have caused several totally inexcusable recent murders. Plus, let's remember that the murders are only a fraction of the issue - just the easily identifiable high point. The measure that is important is whether the people being policed trust those doing the policing.

Also, let's remember that there have been years of trying to force the existing police forces to warrant that trust.

You can't expect people to wait forever - even though so far they pretty much have waited forever.

 

Is murder, shootings, instances of arson, assaults, and extensive destruction of private property all regular occurrences at the Capitol Hill Block Party? Is what's happening now the norm rather than the exception?

If so, then I'll agree that "block party" is a more accurate description of what's happening in CHAZ than Fox's doctored depiction.

 

Unlike the quotes you claim were said, the issues of boogaloo killings include of those in your list is well known.

In fact, the individual doing the boogaloo sniper attacks in Minneapolis is known. He's ex Navy.

 

No, it's apparently not well understand that that's what abolish means.

That's a pretty straight forward "GET RID OF COPS".

That was published in The New York Times. That wasn't spray painted on the side of a cop car near CHAZ.

 

Dude.

Fox worked HARD to create lies about what's going on in Seattle.

Live with it.

After that, you have not shown anything of interest. Period. And, that ceretainly includes anything said about upcoming music events in Seattle.

 

Substantiation needed.

 

One dumb photoshop looks like hard work to you? What do you do for a living?

Shooting, murder, destruction of private property, assaults, arson.

Please identify which are lies.

Evasion noted.