30 Percent of Republicans Say True Americans May Have to Resort to Violence to Save U.S.

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  1. Heartburn

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    What kind of help are you talking about. They put out fires, rescue kittens from trees, enforce the laws and risk their lives doing so and all of them run into burning buildings that sometimes fall and kill them. Define your view of help?
     
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    I fought in Fallujah with the Marines in what amounted to a civil war and I can promise you civil war in America would be catastrophic and the end of everything you once held dear. Americans are soft as ****. They would not survive the absolute misery that the Iraqi people endured. I would guess 50 percent of the population would die of starvation and disease within 3 years. Whatever “won” that war wouldn’t matter. It would be a century or more before you could even piece the country back together if ever
     
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    You think your kind of nonsense about the research you did on facebook is going to convince me?
     
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    Thanks for your service . We are soft but no all , we are armed with mostly small arms so we would lose a great deal when it starts , I just hope my Camp is safer than the city, I won't starve at first I have 6 months worth of dried good but water could be the problem
    40 5 gallon jugs and 30 cases a bottles , it's a lot but it won't last
     
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  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Just what you said. They live and function among us. They are part of us not our rulers. Cynicism aside we're still pretty much our own rulers
     
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  6. Heartburn

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    I wish that were true but it becomes less so every year.
     
  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Are there really people who are ready to become snipers over Universal Health Care and/or 2 years free college? All this talk of Civil War and division in America sort of ignores the fact that very few of us feel so strongly about anything that we are disputing to go out and start murdering people over it.
     
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    I don't go on social media, nor do I intend to convince anyone, but I do go on non MSM sites domestic and foreign that mention names of people that have suffered severe after affects, as well as what doctors and specialists have said. They also state the statistics that our government hides from us.

    Anyway other than Fauci and others, Biden's son in law is heavily invested in the pharmaceutical industry.

    Anyway it should be up to the individual if they want to take the vaccination - or rather the injection, since it's not really a vaccine. I personally wouldn't give it to children not knowing what kind of affect it will have on them later in life. To force the vaccine on them is criminal.

    Also who knows what kind of affect it will have on young people's reproductive organs. They too should think twice about taking it.
     
  9. Jeannette

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    As I see it, there are only two things that will push this country towards civil war. One would be a parent's concern towards their children's welfare and the imposition of Covid injections - when no one knows what affect it might have on them in the future.

    The other is the nonsense that is being taught and imposed on them in the classrooms. I think as long as parents are able to home school there is no problem. If a law is passed though prohibiting homeschooling, then I think a Civil war would be imminent.

    One does have to wonder though if these things are intentional so we can be drawn into civil strife, that way Soros and his ideologues can forward their agenda of a one world government.
     
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  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Then do something about it. (Something legal and non)violent, of course). We are only our own rulers if we will make the effort to rule.
     
  11. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Who knows what kind of effect anything will have on anything? We ARE reasonably certain now that the vaccine will keep one from suffering a death which appears to be more akin to a recumbent crucifixion than anything else I can think of (or want to) and which death has already killed 5 million people worldwide.

    There are many things people do every day without thinking that have a far, far greater and more certain risk than this vaccine. Man up and face facts antivaxers, you are doing this out of loyalty to the Bronze One, who is still miffed that people are not gargling Lysol and sticking black lights up their behinds. Such loyalty is about the most misguided and downright SILLY think I have ever seen people do
     
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  12. Jeannette

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    It's one thing to get sick and suffer, and another thing to take an injection which might cause you to suffer. No thanks!

    I personally have seen statistics of the after affects of the injection, as well as how many vaccinated people are sick with Covid - and since I have an anti immune disorder as well as other problems, I would never risk taking it. Nor do I want anyone in my family to take it.

    Also since children are able to fight the sickness why would the government want to give it to them? There's an agenda behind it that has nothing to do with the sickness.
     
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    If I kill someone they were putting me in danger , and that is not murder ,
    The law given in Exodus 22:2-3 says that if a man breaks into a home to steal at night, the home-owner has the right to kill him in defense. In daylight, when the home-owner can see that he is there to steal and not to kill, he cannot kill the thief in defense. In Luke 22:37-39, Jesus explains it is good to be appropriately armed. In Proverbs 25:21-22 and Romans 12:17, Scriptures say to not repay evil with evil, but to bless your enemies. And in Matthew 5:39, Jesus said if someone slaps your right cheek, offer them your left as well.

    The Bible has very few laws regarding self-defense, but plenty of examples.
     
  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    That first para makes no real sense I can see, Could you rephrase?

    Children don't fight Covid.. It kills an increasing number and It affects the survivors differently but in many ways much worse, It cripples many of their systems for life and we have no way of knowing when it may return.
     
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    Thanks for posting this. You know, those of us that KNOW the real deal live with our nightmares and the rest have NO concept of it or the magnitude. They like to talk a big game but when the rubber meets the road, most of them lost their minds about having to follow some arrows in the grocery store (early days of pandemic when stores were trying to keep backtracking down to maintain social distancing). Don't even get me started on the tantrums about wearing masks.

    And, it's really not surprising that we reached this point. We have grown apart over the past several decades and 24/7 "news" has created a couple generations of people who are basically numb to everything around them. That isolation and lack of social interaction is not going to do anybody any favors when we it's time to man up.

    I actually feel bad for the Capitol rioters. Apparently, many of them thought they could go in, cause a ruckus, maybe take our VP hostage or worse and it was cool because they were doing it for their President. The guy with the getup started crying in court because his stomach hurt because his mom wasn't there making his precious organic meals for his sensitive tummy. Seriously? And, we, the taxpayers, get to pay for his special order organic meals now. Several others tried to plead their case that they thought they were being loyal to their POTUS and many judges have schooled them that "patriotism" is loyalty to one's country.

    I am so tired of people bickering over nonsense. You don't have to agree with somebody's politics to recognize they are a fellow American and we all sink or swim together when it comes down to it. How many have actually stopped to consider that everybody doesn't love us and they are watching closely. It's only a matter of time. Either people figure it out and start working out their issues or be prepared to face an enemy or enemies that will make those on the other side politically look like angels.
     
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    Most of those 30% are just talking and wouldn't actually murder people, but some are willing to do so. As for civil war.....I see only one side talking about, so who exactly would they fight against? Sounds like it would be more like mindless killing of civilians than a war. Or perhaps the 30 percenters would fight the US Military. If so they it probably would not last very long.

    Yes, self defense laws apply if you find yourself under attack by 30 percenters, or anyone else for that matter.
     
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    The far right news/social media along with disinformation has radicalized these folks. Bad days ahead unless this gets turned around.
     
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    You’re assuming the military would fight for the government against the people. Big mistake.
     
  19. Pro_Line_FL

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    Military folks are government employees, but assuming they rebel, who would the fight against if not people? You saying they'll just take R&R and watch while you commit your "purge". This is beginning to sound like something that happened in Rwanda, where one tribe slaughtered the other tribe (about 1 million all in all).
     
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    There will be factions within the military willing to oppose government misuse of power. No government is permanent. I don’t think most people on the left realize the intensity of righteous anger building up in our country.
     
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    If you think murdering fellow citizens due to disagreement about politics is the righteous thing to do, then......well, then you are a 30 percenter.

    I saw people like you venting out for 4 years in the social media when Trump was president, because they didn't like it when others called Trump an idiot, and now they are still venting out. What do they vent out about? Whatever FOX, and other RW media happens to be pushing at the time. Its called 'mind control'. You will always be angry, because you are instructed to be angry. Anger has become the normal state of mind with some people.

    A friend of mine was a political junkie and used to vent out about Obama, and one day he had a heart attack. He survived, and his doctor told him to stop stressing about politics, and he did that and he said it was like a weight was lifted off his shoulders. The anger was gone, and life was good again. I strongly recommend you try that. People from both sides are being played like never before, and its being done to divide us, and now we are at a point where people are talking about killing each other.

    The only way to bring down a nation like the US is to divide it, and unfortunately Americans are horribly gullible and are falling for it. Our enemies laugh when they hear about Americans willing to resort to violence against each other.
     
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    You’re welcome to your opinion, I won’t try to convince you otherwise.
     
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    Up until now it is one side that is doing the killing - and it's not the Republicans or conservatives.
     
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    More like a safe bet.
     
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    Meaning?
     

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