5 off duty cops were at Ventura bar shooting...all unarmed.

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    At this particular point in time such is no longer a viable option. The saturation level of firearms in the united states has exceeded critical mass. Any effort at attempting to restrict legal access would be pointless. The nation of Canada, when implementing its registry of firearms, focused its efforts on only the newly purchased firearms, rather than the ones that were already owned and in circulation, as it realized it would be impossible to account for all of them.

    In basic medical terms, the patient has lost far too much blood to be saved.
     
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    Yes because for decades the gun smuggling has been out of the USA into Mexico
     
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    No one said it would be an overnight fix
     
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    if they were drinking not everyone that goes out dancing drinks some decide to be the designated driver and don't drink
     
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    The largest primary source of firearms access by criminal individuals is actually friends, family members, or personal acquaintances they know and trust. Individuals who have every reason to know the individual in question cannot legally possess a firearm, but are still willing to acquire one on their behalf.
     
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    Yeah, you just have to round up how many millions of guns?
     
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    because there is a market in Mexico for them you ban guns here in America the market for guns will be here
    you cant be that dam dense can you?
     
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    I hear ya, bro'.

    I have an 1873 Colt 45 that can still drop a horse at 100 yds.

    7 1/2 inch barrel. Just like new.:salute:
     
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    No as I said it may not b an overnight success. But why not make money off of it? Tax gun ownership and make it that if you are found with a firearm that you have not paid tax on you have to pay a whopping fine. That way when you catch crims with unregistered weapons they have to pay a Yule fine regardless of whether they are guilty of the crime. Would discourage some form carrying at least
     
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    like with every dam thing if there is a market there will be someone who will supply that market
    there is no way in hell you are going to keep guns at of criminals hands just like we have tried for decades to stop the illegal drug trade and have failed miserably at it
     
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    The ones who are profiting from lax gun laws in the USA that enable the gun smuggling are the arms manufacturers

    You can't be.......... personal attacks ar reportable

    Better not
     
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    because then you are only allowing the rich to be able to protect them selves which need that ability the least because they can afford body guards and security systems they live in low crime areas
    it is the poor that needs the most self protection because they cant afford body guards and security systems and they are the ones that live in high crime areas

    you know what was a every effective method used to remove illegal fire arms off the street out of criminals hands
    It was called stop and frisk yah that tactic squashed by you liberals
     
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    The united state supreme court has already ruled that criminals cannot be punished for possession of an unregistered firearm, as attempting to comply with any registration requirements would violate their constitutional rights against self-incrimination. They are constitutionally allowed to ignore the law in this particular case.

    Beyond that particular matter, what would a fine do, that the already-existing penalty not accomplish? The criminal in question can already be sentenced to five years in prison just for the possession of a firearm. How will a fine work any better on the matter?
     
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    How much time should be invested in implementing the effort, before it is concluded that a return will not be seen on the investment?
     
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    How? How are firearm manufacturers profiting from their products being illegally smuggled into the nation of Mexico?
     
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    and you don't think foreign gun manufactures wont fill that void? do you know how many countries manufacture the AK47 hell we have a country in south America that manufactures AK-47 Venezuela I'm sure they wouldn't mind one bit to supply American criminals with a new batch of guns
     
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    Gun availability has little to do with gun violence. El Salvador has only 1/10th as many firearms per capita as the US. However their gun related death rate is 10 times higher than the US.

    Bans never work. Drugs are banned, speeding is banned, rape is banned, illegal immigration is banned, minors drinking is banned, drunken driving is banned, on and on. Ban is just a hot word politicians use to stir up the simple minded.
     
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    Then why didn't the synagogue shooter use fully automatic weapons, or sarin gas, or grenades, or RPGs?
     
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    Why do prohibited individuals still use firearms at all, despite having no legal means of gaining access to them?
     
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    Because those items are rare and heavily controlled from manufacturer to delivery to the military? Horrible example.
     
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    And why is it riskier, harder and more expensive for them to do so? Why don't more do it?

    Why do people murder? I mean, geez, there's a law...repeal the law?
     
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    Controlled, eh? Huh, sounds like code...what does that mean? You mean, i can't just buy a modern, fully automatic weapon myself?
     
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    Semi auto fire is more effective than auto fire, which is just a waste of ammo unless you are suppressing the enemy as a base of fire so your assaulting element can get in position. Even in crowded areas, I would say you will get a higher body count with well aimed, semi auto shots.
     
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    You can actually. If you can pass a crazy detailed background check and have 20 grand to spend.
     

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