58,000 Non-U.S. Citizens Voted in Texas State Elections, Attorney General Paxton Says

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  1. dairyair

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    Yes, D's are NOT for OPEN borders. I said so already/.
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The number in question is the number of state IDs issued by Texas once the applicant had proven their lawful presence with a DHS (or previous office's) approved green card or non-resident alien visa. So, no, they're not stolen IDs.
     
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    By only funding barriers for a very small portion of the border. Allowing a whole lot of border to not have any barriers.

    Then telling the American people drones and sensors will stop people from crossing over. You know, lying to them and tricking their own kind.
     
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    Colombine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fair enough but maybe there's something in his record preventing him from obtaining citizenship. No one can tell without all the information.

    I just know that, in the experience of people I've known, transition to citizenship was far easier than initially obtaining the green card. They just need a clean record and proof of income or assets (as well as proof they've lived here substantially while holding the green card and haven't been overseas for an unreasonable length of time).

    Just FYI, if he's in he's 70s now and got his green card at 18, he did so at a time when they were practically being given away. It's much, much harder now.
     
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    Clean as a whistle and a voluntary Vietnam Veteran that served as a medic.
     
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    Just lack border security, sanctuary cities, and abolition of ICE. But trust you. They really aren't for open borders. Lol.
     
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    Why Are the Democrats Obsessed With Open Borders?
    https://thepoliticalinsider.com/why-democrats-support-open-borders
    Let’s explore why Democrats want open borders. The Democrats have perfected the art of exploiting human tragedy to further their cause, I mean after all their motto is “the ends justify the means.” ... They don’t have jobs or support systems ready. So they become wards of the state. The Democrats bribe immigrants with promises of …


    Calling for the Elimination of ICE and Customs Enforcement Agency shows they want borders secure, huh?


    What Democrats are on record calling for open borders?


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    Charles Fout


    Former Security Specialist at Federal Government of the United States2006-2016

    Keith Ellison. Cynthia Nixon. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.....snip~


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    And from the Wikipedia page on “Abolish ICE”, there’s a list. Don’t pretend that abolishing all border enforcement isn’t the same thing as opening the border.
     
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    Well, without some indication of the reason for his denial, we're just shooting the breeze.

    That would have been included in any correspondence from USCIS.
     
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    They will be as or more effective than a mostly useless wall.
    Over, under, around, are all options to a physical barrier. Not to difficult to see that.
     
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    What happened was 9/11 during the process and it got a lot harder after that.
     
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    I see your problem, you think 1 or 2 people saying something, means the entire group of people believe the same BS.
    That's your issue, no one else's.
     
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    Everything I posted is mainstream left wing ideology now because the party has gone ridiculously far to the left. Embarrassed by it?
     
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    I'm aware there was a huge clampdown after 9/11 but things did ease up afterwards. The last swearing in ceremony I'm aware of in Los Angeles had over 4000 new Citizens.

    Maybe he should try again?

    That said, things are reportedly getting harder under the Trump admin which is why so many GC holders rushed to naturalize once he was elected?
     
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    How to the Dems plan on controlling the border then?
     
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    You don't have to be able to drive to register to vote. :)

    “ LAFAYETTE, Calif. (AP) - A man who successfully signed up his poodle to
    vote as a Republican pleaded no contest Monday to a misdemeanor fraud
    charge and paid a $250 fine.

    Donald Miller, 78, registered his poodle Barnabas three years ago to
    protest the voter registration process.

    "It could have been a lot worse," Miller said after his court
    appearance in Contra Costa County. "I didn't want jail time."

    Miller estimates thousands of ineligible California residents are
    registered voters. To test his theory, he filled out a voter
    registration card for Barnabas and patiently waited to see what would
    happened.”
    AP, Lafayette man pays fine for registering his poodle to vote, - (Published June 10, 2002)
     
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    It's not. And I'm not. I am not party to any of the 2 corrupt parties we have in our country.

    Are you embarrassed at a thoroughly red state like Texas lets illegals vote?
    Or that a woman just wilted tRUMPs balls?
     
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    Ask them.
    But I think there is a platform out there somewhere.
     
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    All I can find is it says they will "improve border security". No plan whatsoever. I don't know how they plan on stopping anybody without a wall. without chokepoints, it doesn't matter how many sensors or whatever is on the border, unless we are going to station military units? Security without a wall for a border that big makes zero ****ing sense.
     
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    A fallacy of hasty generalization, Ddyad.
     
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    We have barriers and choke points.
     
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    No but the article we're discussing relates to people who have mistakenly been assumed to be eligible to vote because they applied for driver licenses lawfully and got into the system.

    That's on state bureaucracies, not people wanting driver licenses.

    There's no indication that they have voted or moreover that they didn't become Citizens during the period the license was valid and consequently voted after that.

    The number of voter fraud (it actually says "election" fraud, so that's sloppy classification at best) counts actually prosecuted seems to be 97 by 33 perps and again, there's no indication that those weren't actual citizens just voting in the wrong district, voting twice or moving from another state and failing to register.

    This article fleshes things out a little further:

    https://www.statesman.com/news/2019...y-have-illegally-voted-in-texas-officials-say
     
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    Mostly likely no illegal votes are harvested by either Dems or Pubs. These are not guestimates, these are out right Alt Right or Russian agit prop lies.

    Or provide the proof.
     
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    No one actually believes those numbers, but tRUMPers.
    And why are the R election committees so incompetent if the number are real(they're not).
    In most, if not all states, both parties are involved in the setting up and monitoring election polling stations.
    If there is a suspect polling place, then it behooves the Rs to set up and monitor. Are they incompetent?

    Or is this really made up fake news? I vote fake.
     
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    If calling out cons for being conspiracy theory loving loons is your point, than yes, I agree with you.
     
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    The OP charge is loony and unproven.
     
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