6th Circuit Reaches Conclusion on ‘Preferred Pronouns'

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  1. doombug

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    It really isn't complicated. The left wants to control what people say and think. Once folks realize this it becomes less complicated.
     
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    And now this is legal. Dude dresses and talks like he came straight from the ghetto. Apparently you can be transgender while still dressing, talking and acting like a man. You will note that he leaves the door open while he pees. He definitely wants the women to see what he is doing. This is going to lead to some very dark places for women, we apparently aren't protecting them any longer.

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    https://odysee.com/@wayoftheworld:7/trannyrbathroom:b
     
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    Please explain to me how transgender doesn’t fit the textbook definition of delusional.
     
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    It's much bigger than just the physical threat to women and girls posed by this stuff (though that's bad enough on its own). It's the sheer flaming misogyny of giving that 'female space' to men, just because a few of them demanded it. It doesn't matter a good g-d damn how he bluffs his way into stealing these small benefits women have secured for themselves in order to feel and be safe.

    Any woman who supports this is the enemy of her sisters, worldwide. They are the worst misogynists of all, because they go out of their way to fete the worst kind of men - men who are such narcissists that they will happily dismantle the very idea of womanhood to please their own egos. Even a male chauvenist is no match for that kind of misogyny.
     
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    Would you describe a black person trying to transform into a white guy -- say, Michael Jackson -- as "completely normal" ?
     
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    My preferred pronoun is 'Master'.
     
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    My preferred pronoun is "Xhem". You better pronounce it right because if you don't I'll make sure you get fired.
     
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    Yup! It's that "safe space" crap.

    Safe Spaces Are Creating A Generation Of "Snowflake Tyrants": Dr. Everett Piper
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    "...they’re carrying their cancel culture, their demands for safety, into our country at large, and they’re silencing everyone who disagrees with them. This is ideological fascism, it is not intellectual freedom..."

    Piper, who served as president of Oklahoma Wesleyan University for 17 years, said that his earlier warnings, that coddling America’s youth by acquiescing to demands for “safe spaces” and “trigger warnings” would lead to a sad and dangerous infantilization of the American spirit, are increasingly coming to pass.

    “The ‘snowflakes’ have graduated,” Piper said.

    “And they now have jobs at Google and Amazon and Apple and Twitter and even Major League Baseball.

    Piper’s complaint about “snowflakes” having a growing impact on the political tenor of major American corporations is part of what Republicans—and conservatives more broadly—have started to more vocally criticize as “woke capitalism,” or big business’s embrace of progressive positions.[/quote]
    These Corporations believe that they pay no price for crossing Constitutionalists.
    Quit whining Marco, and make the bastards pay.
     
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    No its a different species But still uses chromosomes to determine male and female. It uses the ZW chromosomes to determine sex rather then XY like most other species.

    But just because it uses different chromosomes does not mean that there are no males and females
     
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    How is it not a disorder?
    Science also says there are two sets of human chromosomes, male and female. Not sure where the other 55 genders came from, but it wasn't any rigorous science.
     
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    So how then do you know that it's male and female, and not some completely different gender we literally cannot conceive of?

    Science says that it's not. Simple as that. Anyone who thinks that all it means to be human is to reduce it to genetics doesn't understand what it means to be human.
     
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    Because we observe X & Y chromosomes, and not X,Y,Z,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 chromosomes.

    Science says no such things. People pretending to be "scientists" have made the claims, but there's no evidence and no logical argument for a mental disorder creating 55 new genders. Sorry.
     
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    Except in court. Try calling the judge by his name. Let me know how free that speech is?
     
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    In other animals? We don't always observe X & Y chromosomes.


    A random person on the internet vs.
    1. Anthropologists.
    2. Biologists.
    3. Historians.
    4. Sociologists.
    5. Political Scientists.
    6. Psychologists.
    7.Evolutionary Biologists.
    8. Geneticists.
    9. The list goes on and on.

    Perhaps the problem is not with the data but the inability to see how their logic and evidence trumps yours? The field has already made its conclusions based on falsifying and proving claims about gender. The simple fact of the matter is anyone who reduces humans to their genetic components only does not understand what it means to be human. A person has the genetic code to make an arm. Does that mean that person will always have that arm? No, and it would be foolish to say otherwise.
     
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    Because females produce eggs and males produce sperm.. it's shocking I have to explain that to you
     
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    Do all females produce eggs and all males produce sperm? Because that's a terrible definition as soon as someone brings out a scalpel, or brings up a genetic disorder that prevents the organism from producing eggs and males producing sperm. Or what about asexual reproduction? Or more to the point, how do we know that's what the organism understands itself to be doing? Humans may recognize it as an 'egg', but does the organism see the 'egg' the same way?
     
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    No there is always the possibility of a genetic defects but the fact that genetic defects happen does not mean the males and females don't exist or are easily categorized based on chromosomes.

    And what are you talking about with organisms knowing what eggs are? Are you just trolling now?
     
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    But how would know what the defect is unless you have the definition already, which would mean you already knew what the defect was. You have circular logic going on.

    No trolling. This is a problem for animal behaviorists. How do they know what the animal is thinking when they’re not that animal?
     
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    What does it mean to be human?
     
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    Because you can observe what is the norm and anything that is abnormal would fall under a possible defect.
    If 99.9999% of all humans have 10 fingers and 10 toes.. then humans have 10 fingers and 10 toes, even though birth defects can cause people to have less then that.

    It does not matter what animals understand, it is what humans understand, science is for OUR understanding of the world around us.
     
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    I have no clue. I have tried to answer that question enough times to know 'meh screw it, we got thumbs and make fancy art, good enough for me'.

    That's not answering the logical problem. If you say that X is not Y, you must already have the idea of what X is, in part by it's relationship to Y. So how did you come up with the definition of X on it's own, and not as a relationship to Y? In effect you have a circular problem. It doesn't matter how many times you see X or Y on it's own. In your mind you already have the idea that X is not Y. Every time you see X from here on out it is confirmation bias.
     
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    You figure out what x is and what y is based on observation. You observe something and come up with a hypothesis of what you observed and then test your hypothesis, and test it again over and over changing your hypothesis or confirming it based in repeatable test results..

    Observe a bird laying an egg.. test the chromosomes, and determine that bird has ZW chromosomes so your hypothesis is that ZW is female.. not repeat that test over and over to make sure you are getting the same results.. that's how science works..
     
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    And do you know what your observations are what they are... unless you already have those concepts told to you? You say that birds lay eggs. How do you know what an egg is, unless you already have a preconieved idea of what an egg is in your head? You kicked the bucket down the road, not solved the problem.
     
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    Yep first step is determining if what came out of the bird is in fact an egg.. and you do the same thing.. you observed something coming out of that bird and your hypothesis is that's an egg, but you need to test it to make sure it's not just a rock.. now repeat the test over and over to make sure that it has the same cell structure and chromosomes that eggs typically do.. now that you have determined that it's in fact an egg you go on to test the DNA of the bird and move onto the next step.. and over and over for pretty much EVERYTHING you see and can observe in this world.. again that's science and you should of had a basic understanding of how the scientific process works.. so again I'm thinking you are just trolling
     
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    Tell me you really don't support science, without telling me you don't really support science.
     
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