9 year old kills himself after coming out as gay

We actually do not know what the child was thinking. Only the opinion of the mother.

Yes but I am trying to bring you back to reality. Don't be so hard on yourself.

Of course it doesn't excuse the bullying. But how can you pretend this child could even understand what gay is at 9 years old? Think before you answer.

Complete BS. A child before puberty has no concept of homosexuality as a sexual attraction. This anti science BS is one of the primary causes in children this young being so manipulated by the LGBT community and their supporters.

By your anti science beliefs all Tom Boys are lesbians when the reverse is actually true.

 

No, they cannot run that one ever again with the election and continuing support of the Trumpster. They are completely out of gas with that.

 

No one said that all kids bullied kill themselves. Find a quote. You invented it.

I read that as "every child", but to claim that no child can know if they are hetero or homo before the age of 10 is being anti-science. It's not the norm, that I agree with. It mostly happens around 11-14 years old.

"Accumulating studies from the United States over the past decade suggest that the development of sexual attraction may commence in middle childhood... As these studies have shown, first same-sex attraction for males and females typically occurs at the mean age of 9.6 for boys and between the ages of 10 and 10.5 for girls."
The Magical Age of 10

And it doesn't matter, because the kid was probably transgender anyway.

SO bullying wasn't the problem, because not every child dies from it… But I guess it means that every child dies from parental failures? Is that your claim?

Never claimed that. You keep inventing things. Why no stick to truth? How can you be that disingenuous? You invent something and them ask me if I believe what you invented. That's just sad.

 

Sounds likely.

 

I blame the liberal educators pushing the gay agenda in schools and liberal culture in general that sexualized young children before they are ready to handle the subject of sex

 

That can't be an argument against what I said, because I don't think you should put a leash on a kid and I don't think you should let a child become a dog and I didn't claim you were a bad parent.

Honestly, you don't know how to argue if you think that what you wrote is an argument. You tried and you failed hard with your fallacy.

 

effeminate boys have been taunted since the beginning of time. who's to say it's not an involuntary 'species survival' mechanism.

 

This is simply wrong.

#1, you can have attractions to someone at an early age, without it being overtly sexual, or without understanding that you might be having sexual feelings. When I had that crush at age 9, I wasn't thinking sexually. I was thinking "I want to talk to that girl in a way I've never wanted to talk to someone, and maybe hold hands." I never had a similar feeling toward a boy. Sexual arousal is something that gets layered on TOP of attraction. It is not the end all be all of attraction.

#2, studies have shown that the mean age for first sexual attraction is around age 10:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/20182425?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Also, puberty can begin as early as 8. That's rare, but the age range for the onset of puberty is 8-14.
https://www.dukehealth.org/blog/when-puberty-too-early

So you may need to rethink your opinion about how old kids need to be before they start having sexual feelings.

 

Neither can I.

I'd be interested to know why you approach the subject from that perspective but, my take is, since it's existed from the beginning of time, without it we wouldn't be mankind as we understand ourselves to be. It's an intrinsic part of our species and a small part of what makes us who we are. To me a better question would be, "why has it taken us so long to deal with this, it's not going away anytime soon?" I think we're on the right track, we just have a long way to go.

Value neutral. It just is.

Fair enough!

Agreed. That said, this child seems more gender confused with wanting to dress like a girl. That's something I know nothing about but the compulsion does seem very strong in certain people: young and old.

 

congratulations on the classless post of all time. uding the death of a 9 yr old for political attention.

 

here is another classless post. only a conservative would use the death of s 9 yr old for political attention.

 

I disagree with this. Parents can and do have a huge influence on their children and can easily sway them in their decision making. Doesn't mean the kids still won't make mistakes or make bad choices, but often times the difference between a kid serving a life sentence and a kid finishing High School and moving forward with their lives is..... The parents.

On another note, IMO, this is the biggest problem with society right now. Somehow not holding parents accountable for their children means they are not taking accountability. Parents should have a huge influence on their children and on society as whole as they shape the world their kids grow up in. Taking the hands off approach and absolving yourself from the responsibility of what happens under your own roof and with your kids just isn't acceptable.

There were a hundred plus times I gently nudged my kids in the right direction and often times they had no idea I was aware of what they were going through.

 

You mean like the lefties did with the shooting of Tamir Rice?

 

i have an issue shooting children. that said, do you plan on escalating the political explotation of children.

 

Kids are kids and meaner than hell by nature. I know I was.

 

How can a 9 year old know if he's gay or straight. He hasn't even hit puberty left.

Sounds like bullshit to me.

 

Then stop shooting children.

 

We disagree on politics, but we seem to agree on parenting... Kids are considered non-adults until they are 18 years old for a reason...

On this topic, I would have strongly suggested the boy do whatever he wanted at home, but keep it on the down-low at school with the "feminine clothing".... 9 year olds are generally not prepared to handle non-conformity like they would when they hit middle or high school. And I agree with whoever said this was trending towards transsexualism over gay, not that this distinction would matter to a bully.

Is that stifling the freedoms of this 9 year old boy?? Sure... a little.... but that might have kept him alive..

 

Look up the science on the onset of puberty.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ming-out-as-gay.540640/page-2#post-1069549921

 

I don't disagree with your article, but I HAD to laugh when it started out with a 10 year old boy getting interesting watching Captain Kirk taking his shirt off....

That's how it started for every gay kid in the 60's... DAMN you William Shatner... DAMN you all to hell......

 

Show any weakness and you get the hell beat out of you at school. The girls used to just cut another girl to pieces with words and insults, but now they are doing beatings, too.

 

Sexual attraction to the same sex? Believe it or not some people bloom early in this regard....myself included, though not same sex.

 

Only in the same way we might be better off if there was no race, religion, nationality, class or creed. If we all looked, thought and acted the same I’m sure the world would be a much simpler and quieter place. I’m not sure it’d be definitively “better” though.

 

Some babies sleep through the night at 6 months old, some don't until they are 2 years. The parents with the easy babies tend to think they are awesome parents, until they get the second kid that just won't stop crying.

It's the same with decisions for teenagers. Some kids are easily pliable, some others will do the exact opposite of what the parent wants. Again, the ones with the easy kids think they are awesome parents.

We never wanted our son to play football because of the risk of brain injury. Guess what sport he is playing? That's what you get when you have a headstrong, spirited child. Now, you can try to educate the spirit out of them using the my way or the highway approach. That's not what I want to do.

 

I understand that this board is called Political Forum. So I guess I should have expected that, somehow, the suicide of a child and the issues surrounding that suicide would be politicized. But I am saddened that the opportunity to discuss homosexual awareness in children and the issue of bullying in schools has turned into an opportunity to throw daggers at party affiliation. How has it all come to this? That everyone's opinion is somehow informed by their political leanings? This doesn't happen in other countries....