9 year old kills himself after coming out as gay

I agree that the kid likely needed more support to handle the crap he would receive, though the bullies and, I suppose, school administration share some fault in this. Maybe the mother contacting the school about it and having them keep an eye on the situation would have been the way to go, and then I also have to wonder how involved the mother was in it all after she knew her son was going to be "coming out" at school. Seems to me she at least could have prevented a suicide.

 

I was bullied for a couple of years by some older Indian lads at school until they left the school, joys of going to a private school with hardly any white people except the teachers.

That's when I formulated my theory that some people are just f***ing a****holes regardless of their skin colour.

 

I just disagree with you that that parents are often powerless trying to influence very important decisions in their kid's lives. That statement sounds very much like you were absolving yourself from the wealth fare of the child. I think parents are the single most important factor in a child's life. Nowadays, it seems like one parent raises the kids and most of those kids turn out pretty poorly. That is even a bigger problem. Especially when a single female has multiple kids with multiple men and the men never stick around.

I never brought politics into this, you did. Quit being so pissy.

 

Your unwillingness to understand the mindset of a gay child is understandable, but you really should not attempt to turn that into a reason to attack the story and the mother so unfairly. It's clear that you are not familiar with the facts of the case, but are leaping to your own biased conclusions based on a news story and your obvious personal anti-gay thinking.

 

Nine year olds don't get that deeply into gender issues on their own, particularly boys at that age. Either someone (the mom) brainwashed the kid and completely messed him up, or there is a lot more to this story that has not come out. The entire thing sounds fake.

 

Kids hide stuff, and pretending parents "should have known" is mostly nonsense.

We had THREE kids die at my daughter's middle school last year, in a rather horrific chain of causation.

An eighth-grade boy was hit by a car and killed while crossing a street.

A ninth-grader, being a ninth-grader, made a "chicken crossing the road" joke on social media about it. I knew him; he was the kind of kid who tells inappropriate jokes to help cope with what he is feeling.

The friends of the dead boy got VERY outraged, and began threatening the ninth-grader.

After two days of that, the ninth-grader killed himself.

(A week later, another student also killed himself. It's not clear how or if it was related, but the timing was very coincidental.)

Nobody thought the ninth-grader was the type to kill himself. And maybe he wasn't, pre-bullying. Blaming the parents for "not knowing" is both misguided and callous.

 

I don't care if someone is gay but I think before puberty it's highly unlikely they would know. The parent knew what the child was going to do she then did not follow up how it went obviously because if she did she would have known something was wrong. She at best showed a poor sense of judgement and a lack of responsibility.

Or the mother killed him and either spun the truth or made it all up.

She doesn't seem that upset for someone who's child has just died and seems preoccupied with placing blame as far from her door as possible.

 

??? How does "Mom, I like boys" involve getting "deeply into gender issues"?

 

And again, the MEAN age for the onset of puberty is 10. Meaning it wouldn't be at all unusual for a 9-year-old to be going through puberty.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/28/health/preteen-suicide-jamel-myles/index.html

CNN have an interview with her

 

Starting puberty it does take time you know.

And regardless at 9 years old encouraging a kid to be bullied and then blaming bullies is hypocritical we know how the world works. Hiding children in cotton wool is not preparing them for a future they can compete in.

 

Um, yes. So what?

Er, what? How was anyone "encouraging a kid to be bullied"?

 

Don't trivialize the issue. He did not simply say "mom I like boys". If you ask the vast majority of 9 year old boys if they like boys, they will say yes - because the question does not have a sexual connotation to them.

On their own, 9 year old boys do not get so deeply involved in sexuality that they decide they are gay and need to come out to their friends.

Who was this 9 year old "coming out" to, and why? He was not sexually active, his friends and fellow students were not sexually active. Why was he so distraught over the issue?

There is more to this story than meets the eye. Smells fake or a coverup.

 

No, I don't think so. This whole story stinks of rotten fish.

No 9 year old thinks they're "gay" unless someone is feeding that into their heads.

How much do you want to bet that it was the mother forcing the child to behave the way SHE wanted?

 

No, the problem is progressive parents who want their children to be gay.

 

Wouldn't you get pissy if someone accuses you of being an irresponsible parent?

As I said above, my teenage boy made a suicide attempt in the past. That was probably one of the worst days in my life. We saw that coming like a first-time heart attack victim sees the heart attack coming. Basically, we had no clue. I think you'd hear a lot of parents of suicide victims tell that same story. It's not because they are bad parents, but because it's the nature of the beast. During the teenage years, friends become more important than parents, so they rather confide in friends, and that's how we found out. It's part of growing up and becoming the own person.

 

how sad that such bullies exist, guess someday they might be President

 

mankind would be better off with less bullies and less hate for sure

 

I think this statement is deeply ignorant about how sexual orientation works, not to mention when puberty kicks in.

I can testify that I had a crush on a girl when I was 9. By that age I liked girls in a way I've never felt about boys.

I have provided links showing that puberty can begin as early as 8.

It is simply not a stretch or unusual to think a 9-year-old would realize they liked boys in a way they never felt about girls.

 

plus they elected Trump, many voted for Roy Moore, some used the bible to defend him even, saying Joesph and Mary did it

 

Try to make sense when you post. It helps everyone.

 

I am just as much against forcing a heterosexual to be homosexual as visa versa, it's not a choice, trying to force someone to change their attractions just is not possible

now if they are bi-sexual and attracted to both genders, then they have a bigger pool to choose from

I think most anti-gay people are bi-sexual, they think everyone is sexually attracted to both genders like they are, they think they have a choice, so everyone does, it's hard for them to see that some people are only attracted to one gender or the other and that there is no choice for them

 

Tragic of course, and I bet there was a lot more going on like severe mental illness.

Wish it would have ended more like this...

 

Are bank robbers born or is it a choice?

 

I'm sorry about your son. That would be horrible for any parent(s) to have to go through. I very often post without thinking about the emotional aspect. The rest we can just leave alone.

I hope works out for you and your family.