A black teenage girl in Bakersfield, California was punched in the face and attacked by a police dog

"We only know she was not who they were looking for"

"No they story states they were LOOKING for someone else not that they mistook her for the person they were pursuing."

"Arguing with a liberal using facts rarely works. They just ignore them."


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The world is an increasingly polarized place. There are societal dysfunctions in place, generational laziness, dependence and poverty, and endemic crime. There are race baiters and hustlers, poverty pimps and enablers, and a culture sick with the lionization of destructive habits and lifestyles. We have a justice system that no longer metes out justice, but has become a turnstile for repeat offenders; each time again through with a slightly more egregious offense; each time again turned out onto the street to harden their habits and continue their damage.

In that, we have a police force which has to cope, and recognizes the increasingly open hostility directed at them. Daily, they encounter circumstances in which the above ills have shaved away the prior civil margins for error and a media which has decided that part of its goal to tear down prior societal boundaries of civility and law and order and paint a picture of LE and LEOs as the problem - as the racists, the intolerant, the divisive/etc...as the "problem" - when those in possession of this agenda to "fundamentally change" America will never admit nor promulgate the understanding of just how difficult the job of LEO has become - largely because of them.

And just what exactly is the real problem: a major element of society too PC/cowardly/in denial to hold the poor accountable for being the source of the vast majority of crime and generational dependence in this country. They're coddled, excused, forgiven; and the reputation of LE has been increasingly damaged by these cretins. These progs.

There are incidents of wrong, of course. They are punished. The majority, however, are merely spun as casting blame on Law Enforcement. It is a most insipid and dishonest enemy we fight.

And the poster to which I am responding is complicit in it.

 

Nonsense. Police have no right to detain someone unless they suspect them of a crime. How the police mix up a girl with long hair and a bald man? They had no legal authority to stop this person. That's the law. They will be sued for this, and justly so.

 

Blah ****ing blah. The police have no legal authority to detain someone unless they suspect them of a crime. That is case law and is actually the law in our country.

STOP defending them. They assaulted an innocent person. And here you are, claiming it was "spin."

****ing statists. Make me sick.

 

Hilarity ensues. If you point out police work that is shoddy, you're a liberal. When you **** on cop suckers with facts, they get all pissed and bitch and whine about "liberals." So ridiculous.

 

Of course. You've extremely quick to generalize though, aren't you?

My post was general commentary. I didn't defend anyone who assaulted an innocent person, nor did I attribute 'spin' with any specificity.

But your comment attempts to claim that no spin exists at all. If you wish to perch on that tenuous twig, feel free. I'm more than happy to allow passersby to evaluate your decisions.

 

No.

There is a distinct difference between observing someone who criticizes the actions and decisions of LE or LEOs in a particular circumstance, but remains at least impassive regarding the need for their role in society, as well as the difficulty of their job, and those who constantly complain about cops with generalistic accusations directed at LE for the purpose of promulgating a larger anti-law and order agenda.

And you, sir, are decidedly in the latter camp. If you want to deny it, you can try. But there is no evidence in support of your objection.

 

Lemme guess, the police dog was white?

I've got a challenge:
Both of these titles are about the police. One of these titles is meant as racist click bait and one is meant for discussion. Which one is just for racist click bait?

 

1. Police cannot detain someone unless they suspect them of a crime.

2. Police cannot demand identification from someone unless they are suspected of a crime.

3. Police cannot arrest someone unless they have suspicion the person committed a crime.

Now. Let's assess the situation. Girl with long hair is in complex with back pack. Bald man armed with machete is in same complex. Cops are tasked with stopping the armed bald man. In what world to you, are the police justified in IGNORING evidence - that the perp was a bald MAN, and then, detaining someone illegally, AND, sicking a police dog on them?

Why is it CONSTANTLY ok for the police to ignore evidence? Why is it CONSTANTLY excused when the cops do extreme things to people?

Remember, they have no legal right to detain her. The police account EXPLICITLY states that they assumed she was he, and that she wasn't suspected of doing anything herself, just that the cops ignored crucial evidence before they effected a stop.

The LAW in California EXPLICITLY states that the people of California cannot be charged with resisting arrest if an officer is unlawfully arresting someone.

"legal defenses to a Penal Code 148 PC California "resisting arrest" charge that your criminal defense lawyer could present on your behalf. Some of the most common of these defenses include (but are not limited to):

The arrest was unlawful / police misconduct

If you physically resist, delay, or obstruct an unlawful law enforcement procedure, you are not guilty of this offense. This is because an officer is under no duty to perform an unlawful arrest...and isn't therefore "engaged in the performance of his/her duties" when s/he does so.21

Forms of unlawful behavior that police often engage in-otherwise known as police misconduct-include:

• Arresting someone without either an arrest warrant or probable cause to make an arrest,
• Entering someone's home without a warrant or permission to do so,
• Racial profiling, and
• Using unreasonable force.22 "

As you can see, the police were effecting an illegal, unlawful detainment of an innocent person. In this case, the police were wrong and should not have stopped this person.

 

Labeled racists by racists... I'm sure the black teen was skipping along with her basket of cookies on her way to grandma's house. Because that's what black teens do before they get beat up by brown police officers and bitten by tan dogs.

 

Latinos and blacks in America do not get along. Blacks see their latino brethren as invaders. They see their ghettos have been turned into barrios, and latino gangs dominating the hood. Much of this originates in the prisons, and ends up on the streets.

It may well have been racially motivated, just not the kind of racism liberals enjoy so much.

 

No. I am not promoting an anti-law agenda. I am promoting a change to the way we police. And in this case, I am promoting the actual law as written in the state of California. Which I cited in a previous post.

YOU are supporting illicit, illegal activities by the police which are EXPLICITLY documented in that prior post.

Don't go throwing stones when you live in a glass house, sir. I posted the law. I support the law. The law says the police need to act accordingly and within its statutes, not assault innocent bystanders.

 

Good argument. It makes it easy to notice defeat with such a childish comeback.

 

What crime was she committing?

 

Thanks, Captain Obvious.

It's based upon 'reasonable suspicion', and it's an extremely vague legal tenet - and often overturned in court.

So? I'm not arguing the details of this case. We do not know anything more about this case than what has been read to date.

Big, meaningless rant. Mistakes are made. My commentary focuses on the underlying agenda of making these stories front of mind.

 

No.

I am not supporting illicit or illegal activities. Your fertile imagination produced that by itself. Any brain dead idiot can post what cops should be doing, and no one - despite what your fertile imagination composts - disagrees.

What I'm discussing is something else above that, and you don't appear to have the comprehension necessary to acknowledge it, or the desire.

 

And, you claimed, people pitch an anti-law stance. The only anti-law stance being taken here is the one taken by those who are claiming the cops were justified in what they did. Since I actually posted law which destroys that childish and vapid claim, I'd like for you to retract your statement.

YOU are promoting an anti-law agenda if you support the notion that what these cops did was justified.

OWN it, sir.

 

Speaking of childishness..

I'm sure the black teen was skipping along with her basket of cookies on her way to grandma's house

Either you're ignorant and didn't read the story or you're a typical bigot who did read the story and still want to place a crime on her.

Since you're sure of what she was doing, please do share with the rest of the class.

 

Lots of racial problems in CA!

California's Judicial Council racial sensitivity bureaucrats dress up as black convicts for office partyJ

Dressing up as black convicts behind bars for an office cubicle party? Because they couldn't pretend to be Black Panthers? What's with these racially sensitive California bureaucrats?

 

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Look at the video, she was riding a Crip bike.

She wasn't going shopping on fathers day to buy something for her father...she doesn't even know who her father is.

She was going shop lifting, that's why she was wearing a backpack.

The next time I'm at the airport and the TSA wants to see what's in my carry on bag I'm going to ask if they have a search warrant and see how that works out for me.

 

Giant liberal conspiracy!

Oh, my! The beanstalk grows!

Your tinfoil hat conspiracy theories are useless.

Do you SUPPORT what the cops did here?

 

Still haven't proven intent which is required for a lie.

Thanks once again for showing when SoupNazi makes a mistake he admits it.

When you make a mistake, you run from it.

 

I bet you're a refreshing unit to hang out with after a long day of work. Nothing bigoted or racist about you eh??? All tolerance!