A black teenage girl in Bakersfield, California was punched in the face and attacked by a police dog

Stop deflecting. You claimed it happens all the time. I laid the math out for you. Tell us how many times it happens out of the 12 million peaceful arrests per year

 

Post #68
Nope, not going to work. There's a reason you never responded to that post. You were defending him when he was wrong. You're not getting around that.

 

Here's the officer's report:

"Officer Christopher Moore wrote in his report that he saw Hargrove on her bike and noticed she had a backpack, so he yelled, “Police K-9, put your hands in the air” and pointed his weapon at her.

“She appeared to be a male and matched the description of the suspect that had brandished the machete and was also within the same complex the suspect had fled to,” he wrote."

Appearing to be someone you are not is NOT a crime. The police should have investigated without confrontation to see if this was the suspect. No one can say simply looking like someone else is a Crime. And police cannot stop you unless they suspect you of committing a crime.

Now, since she did nothing wrong to warrant a police stop to begin with, we can automatically dismiss the department as in the wrong. We have a legal right to privacy and courts have ruled countless times that police cannot stop you when they don't suspect you of a crime. In a case like this, the police should have done police work, verified the suspect, and then confronted. They didn't. They simply leapt into action and started accosting innocent people, and THEN, the person is charged for crimes they commit when they resist unlawful arrest.

 

I knew you couldn't be man enough to admit you made up the charge of lying.

there is nothing in Post #68 that proves his intention. You wanna keep that fabrication? Quote that post where it does.

 

She could have what? Was she arrested for anything done prior to her encounter with the police?

 

The fact that they were looking for a bald headed he just jumps right over your head.

 

How does that prove SoupNazi intentionally mistated the facts? Be specific when you make up charges against others.

 

Part of the problem is the (primarily liberal) anti-cop sentiment, paired with the left's tendency to want to paint all police officers with one brush. A pilot can crash a plane, and nobody starts screaming about aviation regulations and how all pilots are dangerous incompetents. A chef can give you food poisoning, and you don't start screaming about culinary institutes and how chefs are all careless slobs.

However there are roughly 800,000 sworn law enforcement officers in the United States, and when one makes the news the anti-cop crowd immediately starts screaming about all law enforcement and you see false generalizations like we've seen in just the first two pages of this thread:

"Sickening. The police in this country need to be retrained on de-escalation methods"

(ALL police need to be retrained because of this one incident?)

"The police need to be trained on de-escalation tactics, not military style confrontationalism, which attracts a certain dickless type of bitch military wannabes without the balls to sign up and fight under uncle sam."

(Dickless type of bitch military wannabes? Without the balls to sign up and fight under uncle sam (never mind that many police are ex-military?))

"Law enforcement in America will arrest Shaquille O'Neal looking for Webster. "

(ALL of them?)

"Not if you're a steroid pumped adrenaline junky military wannabe ****** with an axe to grind. These cops are always looking for a fight. Doesn't matter who you are or what you do."

(Cops are steroid pumped adrenaline junky military wannabes looking for a fight?)

"The dumb coppers......."

(Now they're "dumb"?)

"It happens all the time."

(No, actually it doesn't.)

"These brave cops find it safer for them to beat up an unarmed, innocent, black teen than face a hostile black......"

(Right, all cops are just going around beating up innocent people because they don't want to face real suspects.)

"Bakersfield racist, bigot, cops......."

(ALL of them?)

"I read this yesterday. It has become the norm........"

(No, it's not the norm.)

"I am unsure that Bakersfield's bigoted, racist, cops would respond to training."

(Again, they're ALL bigots and racists?)

 

It is impossible to investigate further without confronting the person so you are wrong on that count.

Other than that we have only her story as to what transpired.

We do not have all the facts so no you cannot automatically dismiss them as wrong as you have no evidence

 

He was wrong. You were wrong. The conversation is not getting away from that, so you can stop trying.

 

No as i said it is irrelevant in regards to the use of force

 

Yes I was wrong.

being wrong is not a lie and I have yet to see you own up to your lies

 

The police have published their side of the account. Didn't you bother looking for it?

No, it isn't impossible to investigate further. Stop the person and ask. They immediately barked orders and drew weapons, which is confrontational and automatically assumes guilt.

Again, courts have ruled on this time and time again.

 

Alt left doesn't own up to anything. They just blame others

 

Not accusing the wrong person would have avoided all of this, but that would have been too much like right.

 

No, it isn't. Police are not justified in stopping a teen girl with hair when they are looking for a bald man. The police account does not mention her doing anything to warrant a stop. Police cannot just stop you without suspicion of a crime.

Since they cannot stop you, they have no legal right to detain you, and thus no additional legal right to assault you.

 

Stopping and asking IS by definition confrontation.

And no it does not automatically assume guilt it is a protective move and nothing more

 

Being wrong doesn't mean you lied. Its clear now you can't back up your claim. Thanks for proving who the bigger man is between you two.

 

No, we have his statement too and it is very embarrassing, so embarrassing that it must be a lie and I repeat:

Just how big is this policeman given him stating that a 7 & half stone girl sat on him and stopped him getting up while there were several other policemen helping him! And she sat on him again after he pushed her off! Only idiots must believe this cop's story

 

Its obvious he will never admit his mistake. That says it all.

 

Well that takes too much time.
It's much better to:

A. Come to each story under the illusion that police are 100% right
B. Defend the police even after they were found wrong and even after they admitted they were wrong

 

Exactly. Personal responsibility means nothing to them.

 

Post #68

And the beat goes on.......

 

and you still can't answer the question where you can prove his intent to misstate a fact. And I quoted post #68 asking you that directly. Post #116

And what did you do? You ran as predicted.

 

Lotta racist hatred against hispanics in this thread.