A black teenage girl in Bakersfield, California was punched in the face and attacked by a police dog

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  1. tres borrachos

    tres borrachos Well-Known Member

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    What? Again, follow me.

    The man they were looking for was 8 inches taller and 55 pounds heavier. There is no ambiguity here.

    No interest in trying to tie this to Ferguson. These aren't the same stories. Michael Brown was in fact the man reported by the convenience store owner. This girl was not the one reported to be the perp, and not only that, she bore no resemblance to the perp.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Yes and that is IRRELEVANT.

    We do not know what she was doing or what the circumstances were.

    There is nothing that says just because they are looking for one person they cannot run into another who they can arrest and who resists.

    The facts and details are not all known which is what makes your reaction the same as many's reaction to ferguson.
     
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    Akai Gurley was shot and killed for simply walking down the steps.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/city-pay-settlement-4m-family-akai-gurley-article-1.2752497

    Robbie Tolan was shot for driving his parents' vehicle, told to get out and on the ground, parents told police it was their vehicle in their own driveway, didn't matter. John C. Edwards decided to put in the wrong license plate or whatever and falsely accuse the kids of driving a stolen vehicle, yep, even after the parents told them it was theirs. Edwards "knew he messed up and was in complete shock" as if that will remove the bullet from Tolan.

    http://abc13.com/news/settlement-re...ng-robbie-tolan-and-city-of-bellaire-/985487/

    Kid gets gunned down for holding a joystick in his hand.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/georgia-cop-wont-be-charged-shooting-death-teen-n158306

    And an all-time favorite, Charles Kinsey getting shot despite laying down with his hands up, telling the officer there is no weapon, despite dispatcher telling officer there is no weapon, despite other officer telling him it's a toy, despite all of that, he still fires three shots that could have killed both the therapist and his patient.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article150126287.html

    He goes on to tell Kinsey he doesn't know why he shot him, but at the same time he did what he had to do. :shock:

    And just for kicks, he handcuffs the same man he claimed he was trying to protect. :shocked:

    Despite all of this and the story of this thread, there are those on the right who will tell you that "as long as you commit no crime and comply you'll be A okay".
     
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  4. tres borrachos

    tres borrachos Well-Known Member

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    What the hell? You just went way off the mark. Nobody said they can't arrest someone who resists.

    If the story is true, this is a very clear case of mistaken identity. And as I said, this is nothing like Ferguson. That was not a case of mistaken identity.
     
  5. Matt84

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    Ok, so why are you asking about all facts?

    What part about this situation that started with getting the wrong person do you not understand?
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, I see it on my way to work and my way home. Every day.

    I also see lunchings, burned crosses, whips, chains.

    You live in the 19th century.
     
  7. Matt84

    Matt84 Well-Known Member

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    The other user is basically telling you that's it's okay to arrest the wrong person without explicitly saying it.
     
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    Because we do not know all the facts and that is that.

    We only know she was not who they were looking for we do not know why they focused on her.
     
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    Wrong I am saying that as per usual you people are making idiotic assumptions
     
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    No they story states they were LOOKING for someone else not that they mistook her for the person they were pursuing.

    It is not the same as ferguson the assumptions and reactions of uninformed people ARE the same
     
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  11. tres borrachos

    tres borrachos Well-Known Member

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    Whatever. Keep on spinning a yarn. This is a waste of time.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    No they were not and the details and facts are always important. Just because they are after one specific person does not mean they have to ignore any others
     
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    Yes they did. Even they admitted it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...or-black-male-suspect/?utm_term=.e8d5bf91b666

    She appeared to be a male and matched the description of the suspect that had brandished the machete and was also within the same complex the suspect had fled to,” Christopher Moore, the arresting officer, wrote in his report.


    How long are you going to continue to play dumb?
     
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  14. tres borrachos

    tres borrachos Well-Known Member

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    How does someone 8 inches shorter and 55 pounds lighter "match the description" of the other guy?
     
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...or-black-male-suspect/?utm_term=.e8d5bf91b666

    She appeared to be a male and matched the description of the suspect that had brandished the machete and was also within the same complex the suspect had fled to,” Christopher Moore, the arresting officer, wrote in his report.


    We're ready for your daily dose of trolling.
     
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    Because for some in law enforcement, making an arrest supersedes getting the right person.
     
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    Yes but that still does not give us all the details of why they used force.

    You do not know all the facts and do not know what she did or if it was justified or not. The fact of her being the wrong person does not make the use of force bad.
     
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    Yes but, yes but, yes but nothing. You were wrong and had no idea what you were talking about.

    "No they story states they were LOOKING for someone else not that they mistook her for the person" they were pursuing."
     
  19. truth and justice

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    Have to laugh at this in the link:
    Just how big is this policeman given him stating that a 7 & half stone girl sat on him and stopped him getting up while there were several other policemen helping him! And she sat on him again after he pushed her off! Only idiots must believe this cop's story
     
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    tres borrachos Well-Known Member

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    I'm okay with arrests if someone deserves it. Not sure if it was you or not but someone said earlier if you don't break the law, you don't have to worry.

    This was a very clear cut case of police making a mistake. Like I said, I'm not agreeing with the racist angle here, just because she's black. The reality is she looked no more like the description of the suspect than I look like Tom Brady.
     
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    And THAT is irrelevant

    One more time read slowly and engage some reading comprehension.

    You ..........do............NOT..........know ..............all ...............the ................facts...............or ......................details.

    You.............are ...........jumping................to.............conclusions.


    Mistaken identity does not make the use of force unjustified.

    GET IT?
     
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    I was quoting what apologists like to sing. Police have never done anything wrong in their eyes. And I will go beyond just arrests. I'm fine with police killing someone as long as they deserved it.
     
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    Yea right. We're looking for a 12 stone man 5ft10 tall black man with a machete but we see a 7& half stone 5ft2 girl with a backpack on a bike who we decided to go and arrest instead
     
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    And they already have.

    This is one reason why some in law enforcement hate the idea of being taped. They are actually being held accountable and their fabrications don't match reality.
     
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    The Cop in question should just announce he identifies as a Black Female Teen as well. It's the new America where biology and facts come in second to imaginaaaatiiioooon... :laughing:
     

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