A Global Union Is The Only Solution

The OP is proof that experience doesn't always generate wisdom.

A global union? Who would run it?

 

LMAO!!!

I'm eighty years old. I worked for the same company exactly 41 years. I only have a high school education. I educated my three children, two with masters degrees. I'm retired on the lake with 220ft. frontage, a new dock and a new pontoon boat. We have two 2014 cars and everything.....EVERYTHING we have is paid for.

My problem doesn't have a thing to do with the way things were before Reagan. Show me any way an ordinary high school graduate can hope to do the things I was able to do.

Reagan started a Republican plan to work people for nothing and make the rich a lot richer:

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These figures came from the bureau of the debt....they're easily verified:


................................................................Total U S Debt........................................................

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)((Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

 

That sir is an outright lie. He got less for the military than he asked but he got more than enough social spending to more than make up the difference.

 

No one should be surprised that if there is a wage advantage to forming unions, workers will do just that.

Why is it okay for rich people to do whatever it takes to get richer, but it's wrong for working class people to do whatever it takes to make a living?

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Democratic process.

I know. Yet another thing republicans are terrified of.

 

Can't give specific answers without specific questions. The minimum wage (just as one example of a possible tactic that unions can use to make life livable for workers) would depend on how the local economy works. It depends on the cost of living, for example. You don't want to go destabilizing the local economy, that's no good for the workers in the long-term, either.

It's complicated, but it's not impossibly complicated. It's just math.

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Why? That's what big business does all the time, influence the market so that they can keep making a profit one way or another. Why is that okay for rich people but wrong for everyone else? The market should be shaped by the needs of the people, rather than the people being shaped by the needs of the market, especially if the market is going to be solely controlled by the rich, 'cause then you just have people being shaped by the whims of the rich.

 

Taxcutter says:
US labor unions are supposed to be run by democratic process, but in reality they are run by organized crime and the Democrat Party. You think a global union won't be taken over by tyrants?

 

The most curious aspect of leftists and their conceptualization of labor unions in the West is that they don't note that in Socialist countries [think to China] unions don't exist or are totally dominated by The Party [so useless, since The Party is the employer in a socialist country, so if the employer controls the unions ...].

If in those countries work market will become a bit more capitalist, they will earn more and so they will be less competitive and we would have more low level jobs in our countries. We outsource production because of economical convenience, not because we are bad rude Capitalists!

 

So it's like the same problem as with big business, only less so.

 

Are you nuts!!

What he did was slash tax rates for his rich buddies. Near the end of his second term so many patents in mental hospitals had been basically turned out that the homeless in the country reached new highs. Social programs my arse. I've never seen a Republican support social programs....'course I'm just 80.

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................................................................Total U S Debt........................................................

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)((Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

 

Which is one of the many, many reasons why liberals don't want to turn America into China, and why it annoys us so much that right-wingers do.

 

Nah, business does not have the ability to use force like democrats in government.

 

You get it wrong ... right-wingers want China to become a bit "American" ...

 

The rich corporations are killing the country they live in. They move companies, use cheap labor and hide their profits in offshore accounts to avoid taxation.

Twenty-six of the most powerful American corporations paid no federal income tax from 2008 to 2012, according to a new report detailing how Fortune 500 companies exploit tax breaks and loopholes.

The report, conducted by public advocacy group Citizens for Tax Justice (CTJ), focuses on the 288 companies in the Fortune 500 that registered consistent profit every year from 2008 to 2012. Those 288 profitable corporations paid an “effective federal income tax rate of just 19.4 percent over the five-year period — far less than the statutory 35 percent tax rate

One-third, or 93, of the analyzed companies paid an effective tax rate below 10 percent in that timespan

Defenders of low corporate taxes call the US federal statutory rate of 35 percent one of the highest companies face in any nation. But the report signals how the most formidable corporate entities in the US take advantage of tax breaks, loopholes, and accounting schemes to keep their effective rates down.

Tax subsidies for the 288 companies over the five years totaled a staggering $364 billion, including $56 billion in 2008, $70 billion in 2009, $80 billion in 2010, $87 billion in 2011, and $70 billion in 2012”. These amounts are the difference between what the companies would have paid if their tax bills equaled 35 percent of their profits and what they actually paid.

Just 25 of the 288 companies kept tax breaks of $174 billion out of the $364 billion total. Wells Fargo received the largest amount of tax subsidies - $21.6 billion - in the five-year period. The banking giant was joined in the top ten on that list by the likes of AT&T, ExxonMobil, J.P Morgan Chase, and Wal-Mart.

This is why the rich get richer and the rest SUCK WIND

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Another lie. Yes mental patients got turned out but that had nothing to do with Reagan, who, by the way, cut tax rates for everyone not just the rich and indexed the rates to inflation.
Mental patients were turned out because a cabal of ignorant ass lawyers and patient's rights advocates. decided we should replace state mental hospitals with group homes. Never mind that A.Many patients in state mental hospitals weren't suitable for group homes, and B. NIMBY guaranteed there'd never be enough group homes. And began suing state run mental hospitals to make it so. Note this never had anything to do with the federal government.

 

They can do that because politicians allow them to do that ...

Probably no one would expect a Republican President to take action about this aspect of global economy, but why President Obama is not imposing custom tariffs enough high to make imports from China not convenient and not competitive?

... because Beijing is sustaining US public debt [and so Obama's "stimulus"] buying large parts of it.

So ... make a phone call to the White House.

 

As a good rude and cruel Capitalist, I think that market rules have to win also in this field: capitals go where job costs less, this is a rule [demand of workers meets the offer of workers where job costs less, it's clear].

So, to complain that Western [not only American] capitalists are investing in poor countries is a nonsense.

Do you want to be part of the game?

Save money and buy shares of the corporations who are making business and money in this way, so you will receive a part of their profits ...

 

You're full of it!!

I'm 80 years old and was in my prime when Reagan came along. I had voted Republican all my life. He cut tax rates for the richest people in the country:

A rich person could buy a new Mercedes each year with the cuts they received and my wife and I got about $1.50 a week. Anyone who fails to see what the rich and powerful have done to this nation just isn't paying attention:

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These figures came from the bureau of the debt....they're easily verified:


................................................................Total U S Debt........................................................

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)((Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

 

The biggest liars on the planet, one and all work at Fox News. Those bastards can take figures from the almanac and present them in such a way that what someone would be led to believe is opposite of the truth. Facts are in the charts, graphs and figures from the bureau of the debt which I post here almost daily. The biggest lie anyone ever tells is when rich pricks like Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity put on the Jesus act.

 

Presidents don't pass budgets congress' do and your party has controlled one or both houses of congress for 70 of the last eighty years. Congress spends presidents, unless they want to do as Clinton did and veto the whole damn budget for a fiscal year, there by shutting down the government, just go along for the ride.

 

Organized crime was suggested as a problem in unions. It's a bigger problem in big business. The unions were created specifically because of the crimes of big business, of which government was and is a tool.

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Lowering pollution standards, putting the government in everyone's bedrooms ... this is what China does, and this is what right-wingers do to America.

 

Obama even spies the allies ... so we could infer that a left-winger at the White House put the government also in the bedrooms of the citizens of the allied countries ... [but since I'm a right-winger and so I'm not malicious as a left-winger ... I won't infer this!].

 

Yeah...all of a sudden taxes are slashed to record lows by a Republican president, raised by a Democrat behind him.....then, a Republican cuts them not once but twice and turns a surplus into an an additional six trillion of debt. Mere coincidence I'm sure........NOT!

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The Republicans never have seen a tax cut for corporations and the rich they didn't like but never have quit spending for their pet projects and war machine:

These figures came from the bureau of the debt....they're easily verified:


......................................................Total U S Debt......................................................

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accommodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)

09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 ( Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)((Reagan Slashed Tax Rates To Pre Depression Levels)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

 

Clinton had a Republican congress for six of his eight years thank them for a nearly balanced budget not Clinton

 

You are talking about a global union then.

But what does the worker of an industrial Western city have in common with a religious farmer in a small village of Indonesia?

Why should the worker in Sheffield subsidise the corrupt family in Bangladesh etc....?