A Global Union Is The Only Solution

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Finley99, Sep 20, 2014.

  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    OK what policies should they advocate to "cater" to Blacks that they are not advocating now?
     
  2. Finley99

    Finley99 New Member

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    Hell fire.....we're not the ones opposing a $10.10 an hour minimum wage. I'd like to see some of those panty waisted Yale graduates live on $10.10 an hour. I mean I really would.
     
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    Why would you expect someone with a Yale education labor to only be worth $10.10 an hour?
     
  4. Taxcutter

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    What does all this have to do with a hare-brained global union?
     
  5. Finley99

    Finley99 New Member

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    Did you just drop in and drop that bomb?

    The Republican party's goal is apparently to reduce this society to one which only has Lords and Serfs. They of course will be the Lords. A global union would at least put ordinary workers on a path to a middle class again.
     
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    Whew! Lots of facts and figures flying in the air but few willing to catch them when they spin down.

    I would start with an emotional support of Mr. Finley who has seen many things that most on this thread have barely read about in history books. Although I don't completely agree with his conclusions, I do respect his experience and believe has much to offer those that take the time to listen.

    Also being rather long of tooth, I too believe I has lived in much better times. I also bemoan the decline of a labor movement in the U.S. believing it has resulted in a vacuum in the normal business cycle that will need to be addressed before we can return to what I would think was a well balanced economy. But I see many alternatives to simply unionizing the world's workers, even if that was a reasonable choice.

    If the current abysmal political situation should teach us anything, it would be the larger, more diverse the population, the more difficult it will be to construct a compromise satisfactory to all. One Size Fits All becomes all the more difficult the more All you include. We can't agree on a living wage for 300 million of us, why would 7 Billion be easier?

    The current Free Trade production issues have some common underpinnings that are starting to become unhinged.

    Free Trade depends on cheap transportation, something becoming more problematic with the world's focus on carbon reductions, rising energy costs, and limits on ship sizes by current infrastructure such as canals and port depth. When transportation becomes a burden, home spun labor becomes more attractive.

    Corporations are in the headlines today for moving their headquarters around like game pieces to play one tax system against another. This practice has not only caught the attentions of Americans, but many European and Asian countries are also taking notice. There is a growing concenius that the recipicle tax system of today needs an overhaul to keep profits within the domestic markets instead of being transferred to tax havens. Look for many of today's mega-multinationals to morph into a conglomerate of large national companies, doing business at home.

    And there is always the calls from the isolationists to keep jobs, profits, and national influence within one's own borders. It seems to be a periodic cycle that is bound to repeat. As the pain level increases, the calls will grow louder until the Government respondes to public outcry.

    All of these factors will eventually limit the labor force to local sources, at which time local labor will organize to rebalance the supply equation. It won't be fast. It took us 35 years to get thing this screwed up and will likely take about as long to fix it.
     
  7. Finley99

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    I didn't say that. I said I would like to see them try to live on that. Those at the top have gotten wealthy off of borrowed money. They used to pay taxes. Reagan slashed their rates, continued to spend like there was no tomorrow and covered the shortfall with money borrowed from foreign banks. It's simple and it's easy to see. You give me a few trillion dollars and by gawd I'd restore the middle class and the wealthy would start back paying their share of taxes.
     
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    Who the hell works for minimal wage for years? If so there is a reason for it. Nough said
     
  9. Finley99

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    America's first Black president kicked your asses two times....the second one in the middle of the worst recession since the great depression. Maybe that's why ya'll call him president Blackenstein. That while trying to fight a bunch of pricks who have refused to work with him on any of his proposed programs::

    [video=youtube;W-A09a_gHJc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc[/video]
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    If actions are any indication we could more readily say that about Hussein Obama and the Democrats. Right, Messrs. Soros, Immelt, and Buffett?
     
  11. Johnny-C

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    Correct. And a 'regular' working guy either knows or senses what you're saying above.

    I don't know when the pitchforks and torches will come out (probably very soon, in the form of consistent VOTER TURNOUT, large enough to act as term limits).

    The BOUGHT politicians are the main ones who allowed this LEVEL of wealth inequality; and only the PEOPLE will be truly willing to demand solutions to the problem.

    Terrorists??!! Yeah, they're a threat for sure. But they are nothing as dangerous as the cold, greedy, laissez-faire capitalists... that many seem to almost worship in this society.
     
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    You know.......the turnaround would already be happening except for one thing. Half of those who vote or should be voting Democrat either can't afford a computer or don't know how to use one. The Internet has already begun to spread the word and that's exactly what will ultimately wake this society up and take the rich Republicans, who've never heard of a tax cut they didn't like....completely out. When rich people paid their share of taxes instead of hiding their profits offshore or investing somewhere they could use loopholes to avoid taxation we had a middle class.
     
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    That's the answer too often: "They're not making enough money? Well, clearly they're bad people. Only bad people have money problems. So who cares?"
     
  14. Finley99

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    Those a the top sure as hell don't. They keep on trying to elect people who will continue to screw ordinary Americans.
     
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    I wish I had said that.
     
  16. Johnny-C

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    Yes. It's clear that THAT much wealth which some wield, isn't all about bootstraps and hard work... if that were so, the farmers and immigrants working this nation's fields, would have money like the Koch Brothers.

    The stark reality is that we must pay workers a more reasonable wage. No one working the better part of 40 hours a week should be 'poor'; something is WRONG with that.
     

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