A Homeless Man Is Suing After Being Wrongfully Accused of Using Fake Money at Burger King

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  1. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Falsely, yes it is.
     
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    Well certainly that responsibility doesn't rest with the retailer so suing them for suspecting fraudulent currency is frivolous especially along the unsubstantiated lines that man's attorney alleges; the race card.

    As for police, I would be willing to bet that federal guidelines require them to yield determination to the Secret Service/Treasury/etc.

    The arrest and subsequent imprisonment seems to be due to the man's criminal past and probation status.

    Remember: Just because one is outraged doesn't mean one is in the right - I hope this lawsuit is tossed.
     
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  3. Matt84

    Matt84 Well-Known Member

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    So who does that responsibility rest with?
     
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    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well to be honest he got a chit sandwich, what's the change due?
     
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    Jailed while Obama was President, no big news story.
    Released after Trump became President, major news story.
    Makes one wonder how this would have been handled by the media had Hillary became President.
     
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    Ndividual Well-Known Member

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    You have a point, he wasn't homeless for 3 months, lost no wages, and was fed, on the working taxpayers dime.
     
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    Fairly obvious it wasn't false. One must assume that the cops looked at the bill(s) and thought them odd.
     
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    To determine if a currency note is legitimate?

    The Secret Service makes that determination, your article even says so.

    BK thought the note was fraudulent so they alerted police.

    The police obviously had reason enough to suspect it was fraudulent and so they made the arrest and referred the matter to the Secret Service.

    The Secret Service, 3 months or so later, concluded it was legitimate and thus he was released with charges dropped.

    Unless somebody can demonstrate that the police officers or their department violated the law or lacked justifiable reason to peruse the matter then there was no wrongdoing.

    Now the fact that this man's race baiting attorney isn't going after the police suggests he probably knows there was no wrong-doing on their part and so he's left with attacking a private company because the current climate suggests a settlement would be an easy get.

    The attorney (and probably the man himself) sees a pay day by playing a race card by fabricating a victimization that is supported by ...nothing.

    Would you agree?
     
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    Wrong-o.

    It is against the law to file a false police report.

    It is NOT against the law to call the police if you suspect a crime has taken place, even if you are mistaken. That's why the police conduct their own investigation.
     
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    Guys, this is another race baiting thread by Matt, this is what he does and he’s just waiting for someone to bring up race. Since I think he has me on ignore, will someone ask him where he was when McDonalds called the cops on a homeless white guy.
     
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  11. Matt84

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    No, I don't, it doesn't take three months to determine the legitimacy of a bill of money, and that's why he's going to get a settlement.
     
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    Nothing in government moves quickly and you have to acknowledge how busy the Secret Service is with the large Trump detail and the fact they are investigating so many many threats.

    Plus you seem to be erroneously connecting the government's timetable to the BK lawsuit.

    You'd be well off to examine this with reason instead of feelings.
     
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    He said because of his appearance, not the color of his skin. You injected that it was his race when it could just as easily been a reference to his attire, cleanliness or accessories like three month old shopping bags stuffed with his worldly possessions. And yes, black men is three peice suits are treated differently than a black homeless man or a white homeless man.
     
  14. truth and justice

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    I understand him being taken to the station for further investigation but why the charge. It does not take three months to determine that a note is real or fake - any bank will have equipment to determine that
     
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    Exactly the same. The fault lies with the shark lawyers "no win no pay" policy which should be made illegal
     
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    From the article:

    “Ellis’ attorney said the cashier likely wouldn’t have questioned if the money was real if a white man in a suit handed him the same bill. Even if he did, the cashier probably would have apologized and said he couldn’t accept the cash instead of calling police, attorney Justin Drechsler said.”

    Read first; then post.
     
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    I recently handed a 1967 $10 note to a young cashier in a convenience store, and after eyeing it suspiciously and running it through some electronic device under the counter, she refused to accept it. She said it wasn't real and handed it back to me.

    I paid with a different bill that her machine thought was more tasty.

    The only thing that was wrong with that bill was it's age. It was in remarkable condition, and I didn't even notice it was so old when I presented it.

    No one called the cops on me, and if they had, I seriously doubt I would have spent a single minute in custody.

    On the other hand, if I were homeless and hungry, perhaps a few months with three hots and a cot would be a welcome respite from the every day struggle.
     
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    Here's three "suspected" crimes...

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...omplaining-about-restaurants-small-clams/amp/

    https://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2012/03/too-many-911-calls-can-get-you-arrested.html

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/gizmod...d-for-calling-911-on-facebook-spying-wife/amp
     
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    His lawyer specifically mentioned race... for a reason.
     
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    Ok. So every news outlet appears to be leaving out details that to me seem rather apparent.

    There is nothing in the story about why the BK employee thought the money was counterfeit. Nothing about why the cops were called, other than to connect to an attempt to pass what was believed to be fake money. So no discussion occurred between the BK worker and this guy? The worker just took the money, thought it was fake, and simply walked to the phone and called the police. What, the police were waiting outside and arrived 20 seconds later?

    Really?
     
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    The employee did nothing illegal

    The police arrested to homeless goy not Burget King
     
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    and how do you know this.
     
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    You seem to be missing there was more to it than what you said and there may be more to it than reported based on the arrest was not because he was homeless but because he was on probation. I find nothing unusual that a store gets a counterfeit bill and they call the police and the police come and ask the person who tendered it they recall where they got the bill. Oops you're on probation and your story about the bill isn't holding up.......
    As noted there must be more to the story.
     
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    Because burger doodle doesn't have police power.
     
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    A homeless guy??
    I'm sure that it was a nightmare to be taken off the Streets, given access to a shower, bed, clean clothing and 3 meals a day.
    The Horror! Give this man a Million dollars.

    Mistakes happen, but it seems the mistake elevated him to a better, safer, healthier position for at least 3 months than if said mistake wasn't made.

    Did he really suffer here?
     
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