A Kansas chemistry professor got his kids ready for school — then ICE arrested him on his front lawn

It's a crappy situation, but he had ample opportunity to leave and get a new work visa. You change the law by changing it, not breaking it or selectively enforcing it. This is someone who should have been issued a work visa but was not. It's a shame he felt breaking the law was his only recourse, but there were other ways to deal with the situation back in 2011.

 

Ironically, when we change to merit-based immigration intead of what we have now this guy would have gone to the head of the line for a visa

But some illiterate taxi driver in egypt or somolia got his sea on the bus

 

Jury determines whether the law has been broken, not whether it is a good law that should be enforced or not.

 

Not true. The jury gets to judge the law in question as to how it was applied in the case at hand.

Study up on the role of the jury in the notorious Fugitive Slave Act of 1850. Enough juries acquitted that the government eventually stopped prosecuting under the statute.

http://fija.org/

The jury is the conscience of the community, but that frightens all authoritarians and bureaucrats.

 

Do you arrest a pot smoker while a bank robber that just shot three people runs past? Is writing a parking ticket more important than stopping a rape? Priorities. Why is so much effort being wasted on people like him, the dreamers, the restaurant owner and rotary club member, the 900 volunteers in the US military when there are in fact bad people out there. Stop wasting resources on people who are an asset to the community.

PS your insulting my intelligence is more of an exposure of your own issues than mine.

 

If that were the case we woulddn't need juries, just judges who are expert in the law.

 

So what's the problem? The solution is so simple. You and this poor victim should contact Chuck Schumer and other Democratic leaders to let them know what's happening and since these leaders care so much for the rights of the illegal immigrants, they will surely work with the Republicans to draft some reasonable and fair laws that would help this poor family.

That's the simple common sense solution. Will it ever happen? Probably not because the democratic leaders are so opposed to Trump that they would destroy the country and do harm to the American people before they would cooperate or allow Trump to have any success.

So take the challenge, contact the democrats and voice your concerns. See what they have to say or what action they will take. Do you care enough to do that or is your agenda simply to bash Trump?

--pete--

 

To determine if the law has been broken. Not as to wether the law should be enforced

 

Hell we could be handling like You all do In the DRC!

Like I say, there are FAR worse places on this planet!

 

Hell, we are not even arresting these people to go to jail, but to deport them. So, the comparison is not apples to apples.

To say we should not enforce immigration laws because someone might be getting raped, and if not for immigration laws, that rape might not happen is just rubbish, irrational nonsense.

The reason that we have so many illegals here is because in the past we refused to enforce the laws sufficiently. And because going after employers with jail time has never been a facet of stopping the illegal immigration. Take away the carrots and you limit the rabbits coming into your garden. Most come here for jobs. And we have many willing employers who want that cheap labor, and working poor people who have no rights in regards to their work. A perfect employee!! Almost as good as a poor chinese in china where the communist gov't says you will work here. So shut up. One of our MNCs even had to put up nets to keep suicides from happening from the top of their slave labor factory.

All nations control their borders. Open borders is insanity. It is like leaving your kids with a babysitter you know nothing about and encourage others to do the same. It is irresponsible to open up borders. Unless you are trying to implode a society, a nation. Which one wonders sometimes if the faux liberals are not wanting that. Out of utter idiocy.

 

Judge is the law expert. The juries are the trier of facts, and not the wisdom of the law.

 

Was he in the US legally at the time of his arrest?

 

No

His visa was expired

 

All you need to know. Thanks.

One might look into how he held a professorship, however - illegally here means illegally employed.

 

Why aren't we discussing the place of work that hired him, illegally, and did nothing to support the actual law? Do they not also have culpability here?

 

They do. Knowingly employing an illegal alien is a federal felony.

 

What I tried to explain to liberals - without much success - is that this guy was screwed by the current immigrstion laws that floods the country with old, sick or uneducated immigrant extended family members instead of high achievers like him

He is being sent to the back of the line by bleeding heart liberals who do not want merit-based immigration

 

If there is even the slightest doubt, enforce. Ignorance is no excuse before the law.

 

Then Park University in Kansas City should be held accountable for their illegal hiring of an illegal undocumented alien. Where are the protests? When should the school expect that their federal funding will get turned off?

 

What is most notable is that while he is not a US citizen he was a candidate in a US election for school board. This should NOT be allowed.

 

I suspect enforcing the law against the university will bring the protestors out in droves.

 

I've been on a six month grand jury and a trial jury. In both we were always provided with copies of the applicable codes of law, that is, the laws the DA went by to bring the case. We didn't judge the law. We went literally by the law to determine if defendants had broken the law. If they did we convicted, or sent back a true bill for an indictment.

It's not about how you feel, it's about what the legislated law code literally says.

 

Like the Democrats haven't done the same thing - why didn't the DEA go after medical marijuana growers and sellers under The Obama's administration?

 

On a case by case basis, as to whether the law is being applied correctly in the case at hand.

As was demonstrated with the Fugitive Slave Act, the jury can effectively nullify the law, IF enough juries refuse to convict under it if they consider the law itself to be defective and illegitimate.

If, as we are told in high school, all political power flows from the people, the people forming any given jury get to judge the law itself, and its particular application.

www.fija.org

 

You became the rubber stamp they want you to be. Is a rubber stamp really the same thing as a jury?