A message from Adam to all mankind by Rick Joyner.

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  1. DennisTate

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    The fact that Dr. Ben Carson will publicly stick up for this particular nutritional food supplement is one of the reasons why I think he would make an excellent V. P. in 2016 and a great President of the USA in 2024.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/394572-dr-ben-carson-v-p-2016-president-2024-a.html
    Dr. Ben Carson for V. P. in 2016 and for President in 2024?!

    ………

    http://glyconutrientsarevital.blogspot.ca/2006/08/dr-ben-carson-glyconutrients.html
     
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    As you know it costs about one billion dollars to test a drug.

    One alternative is to donate a product that you feel can help people to medical practitioners in a third world nation.

    That is exactly what has been done and the results are somewhat encouraging.


    http://www.blackherbals.com/new_hope_for_aids_in_africa.htm


    If aloe vera juice can be grown in TExas and sold in Canada for nine dollars per gallon then surely it could also be grown in Africa and even one of those eight nutritional sugars….(if I remember correctly it is mannose that is derived from aloe vera)……. could become a low cost nutritional product that could help millions of HIV sufferers in the third world……. as well as in the western democracies?
     
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    Diseases like HIV or AIDS, Cancer, Lou G. Disease...etc....will all be cured using Genetic Engineering.

    As well Nanobot's will be used to get at everything from deep brain tumors to imbeded shrapnel.

    The thing is.....THE REAL MONEY IS IN TREATMENT OF DISEASES NOT IN CURES!!!

    Thus they are dragging their A$$E$!!

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    Yes…….. several years ago I had an interesting discussion with somebody who claimed to be a research physician who was testing the theory that eighty or more trace minerals can greatly improve human health.

    Trace minerals cannot be patented and they are very low cost……… This man stated that he was involved in testing a delivery method to get these trace minerals into the body in such a way….. that could be patented….. and could earn billions of dollars for the company that patents that delivery method!

    I agree that genetic engineering and nano technology can be used to treat and even cure many diseases. Some of the companies involved in that research may not be too thrilled for a low cost alternative to their treatment to be available.
     
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    The Human Body takes in trace elements, vitamins and sunlight and necessary minerals fom food as well that provide a person with everything they need for their body.

    Unless a person has a disease or condition that prevents such absorbtion I am not aware of anything a person needs they can't get in these ways.

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    But I am sure you can understand why I would be impressed by the calibre of the case that can be presented by somebody with the background that Dr. Joel Wallach has?


    http://www.youngevity.net/category/dwj.html


     
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    But isn't it rather intriguing in the several areas of the earth where there just happens to be a high level of trace minerals in the soil and/or in the water that we get cases of extremely high combinations of health and longevity?

    My daughter in law's mom is actually from the Province of Loja, Ecuador so I have some insider information about this area.

    Yes...… some of the people there did exaggerate their age in order to get extra attention which they thought would translate into money but.......... a high percentage of people there at a hundred years of age can still do strenuous work in the fields.

    This is especially interesting considering that it only costs about one dollar per person per year to add eighty or more trace minerals to fertilizer!

    I have reason to suspect that if super food........... produced from fertilizer like this was a large part of the diet of The New England Patriots...… they would tend to have fewer injuries.......... which could well translate into winning even more games?!

    A big congratulations on their Super Bowl victory by the way!

    http://www.thesanhedrin.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1139&sid=44cbfdfdff2c4273d4b8926dc9646c0f
    Post subject: Longevity, will all Jews soon live healthy for a century?
     
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    Just yesterday I was researching Edgar Cayce again...… and it was intriguing that Cayce stated that there had actually been four major cataclysms in which much of the life on earth was killed. He also stated that there had been three major Adam plus Eve combinations.

    I am not in a position to rule out his assertions and if he is correct then you may well be far closer to the truth in this statement than I am??!!

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce03.html#a08

     
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    One of the possible ways to unlock the safe that will provide the finances for the level of health and healing of all humans on earth........ (which seems to be what some near death experiencers have been shown is in our future)....... is if we begin to realize that all of us are stars......… in a massive epic documentary plus reality film series...… produced by G-d and/ or angels.... and/or Elohim..... and/or aliens..... but definitely by a technology that is far far far beyond what we have developed so far.

    One gifted Christian visionary had a dream of heaven back in 1995 and I am pretty sure that what he saw gives us a good idea of how important our lives really are......… to the powers guiding us from higher dimensions of space - time?!

    To my thinking the life review part of near death experiences..... and this "Vulcan Mind Meld" type of experience that Rick Joyner had by holding a red gem....... imply that our lives have been recorded on something far far far more precise than DVD!

    http://www.heaven.net.nz/visions/the-hordes-of-hell-are-marching.htm

    ..............
    If our lives have not been "recorded" how could such a high percentage of near death experiencers report the "life review?"

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research03.html#a02


     
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    I have heard this too many times unfortunately.

    I highly educated and active Field Researcher studies the effects of certain Vitamin Suppliments in specific Primates such as CHIMPS which result in total remission or a high level of remission of a disease and then these Researchers or in this case....Dr. Joel Wallach....makes the mistake of thinking that the same process will wrk for HUMANS.

    Sometimes it might....MANY TIMES IT DOESN'T!!!

    Yet they feel they are sooo close to a cure they cannot let go and they cannot see it for what it is.

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    There is one irrefutable FACT.

    One Man and One Woman do not have the necessary GENETIC DIVERSITY TO REPOPULATE THE EARTH!!!

    After a few generation of INBREEDING.....things like Birth Defects, Genetic Diseases, Sterility and other things would result in extinction.

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    Back in 1988, if I had read what you just wrote, I would have been inclined to agree!

    But now I am not so sure?!

    The NDE of Howard Storm has left me with the impression that the best solutions to many diseases could turn out to be astonishingly low tech?????!


    http://www.near-death.com/storm.html#a04

    Or........ had technology became so advanced that it was almost invisible to Howard, who having lived in our time period is used to technological devices being large and relatively bulky????!

    Howard was simply a witness of the future......… reporting accurately what he saw and heard about it.......... does not necessarily mean that he fully understood what he saw or heard???!

    AboveAlpha.... in post #6 here you will see a phrase that I didn't use simply because it sounded good!

    http://www.thesanhedrin.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1139&sid=44cbfdfdff2c4273d4b8926dc9646c0f

    Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:32 pm Post subject: Unified Theory of Modern World Problems centered on food!
     
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    Back in the 1990's I read perhaps ten books about the readings of "the sleeping prophet" Edgar Cayce.

    His writings left me with many many questions....... which in my opinion was much better than the dogmatic and rather simplistic answers that I had thought that I had...… back in 1988?!

    I have to admit that what you just wrote could fit extremely well with what Edgar Cayce saw about .....section #3. "Human Origins."

    On the other hand..... if it is true that a nearly infinite number of Big Bang or Big Expansion events were planned and choreographed by beings composed of fundamental energy..... then I could not rule out their being so good at genetics that they may have given Eve the capability to have children from various races?????!


    Genesis 5:3


    "And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:"

    There is a possibility that the full meaning of this verse when it is understood could imply that Seth....... appeared to be from the same racial group as Adam???!
     
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    Another big "KA-CHING" in his cash drawer.........the guy ain't stupid ;)
     
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    Dennis.....we KNOW with 100% CERTAINLY now through the use of THE HUMAN GENOME MAPPING PROJECT as well as comparison Genetic Mapping of Humans from all over the world as well comparisons of thousands uon thousands of Genomes of animals and plants and bacteria...etc....that all live EVOLVED on Earth.

    It is no longer a THEORY as EVOLUTION is a FACT.

    How does something become a FACT?

    When it obtains a MATHEMATICAL PROOF.

    In very much the same way we know in a Base 10 Numerical System that 7 + 3 = 10......we use a MATHEMATICAL PROOF.....that being.....10 - 3 = 7.

    This is the level of ACCURACY NEEDED....for a Theory to obtain becoming a FACT.

    We have done this using GENETIC CODES AND GENOMES upon a MOLECULAR/ATOMIC SCALE.....equal to NUMERICAL MATHEMATICAL PROOF.

    Because of this we KNOW with 100% CERTAINTY......there was no single two Humans one male and one female that bred and then their children INBRED and thus populated the Planet Earth.

    IT DID NOT HAPPEN!

    IT COULD NOT HAPPEN!

    IT CANNOT HAPPEN!!!

    IT IS AN IMPOSSIBILITY.....in the same way 7 + 3 = 11......as the MATHEMATICAL PROOF SHOW US.........that ......11 - 3 = 8.

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    Interesting indeed!

    Then strangely enough....... this would imply that perhaps two, if not three, of the three sons of Noah may have chosen wives who were partly descended from Cain and Luluwa...… who....... were stated to have intermarried.........… quite a bit???!



    Genesis 6:2


    "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."
     
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    But at least his writings are useful.........… I have read "The Vision" by him at least five times because it helps me to understand the culture of my gifted Pentecostal wife.

    He also has been shown insights that are up there with the type of insight that near death experiencers come back with.......... which is rare indeed among pastors!

    This story he gives about homeless guy Angelo....... blasts the hypocrisy of us in the church at a level that I have not often seen!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/365987-story-homeless-man-angelo-rick-joyner.html

    The Story of Homeless Man Angelo by Rick Joyner.

    http://www.heaven.net.nz/visions/the-hordes-of-hell-are-marching.htm
     
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    There would have to be a breeding population of ancient Human ancestors numbering in the thousands to have the current existing Genetic Diversity existing.

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    True........ unless The Word - Logos already was extremely good at genetics and somehow programmed this into Adam and Eve??????!

    You could be correct......… maybe there was vastly more genetic material there on Noah's Ark than I could have imagined back in 1988.....................… but there is still a possibility that somehow YHWH programmed astonishing diversity into Adam and Eve for their children??!

    What I believe is going on here on the earth is that we humans are being tested.......... to see if we can handle higher levels of responsibility, understanding, information, wisdom, wealth and power....................... and not allow all of that to go to our heads and take us off on an ego trip?

    Somebody with an inferiority complex......… is NOT truly humble!

    http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#a13

     
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    On the other hand........ it seems obvious that as far as our physical bodies go........ and even our brains for that matter.........… we seem to be on a fairly rapid downward slope!

    I am convinced that our level of physical strength is significantly less than was the norm among healthy soldiers during the time of Alexander the Great!

    I also believe that our ability to memorize and reason has also declined. Scholars, two or three thousand years ago........ were capable of memorizing a far higher number of books than would be expected of a genuine intellectual of our time period?!

    Technology has certainly increased.............. but this is largely though us becoming more and more specialized..................… to become experts in a particular field we tend to ignore aspects of life that a truly educated person of even a century ago would have considered almost elementary level information.

    If we google a standard history, or geography, math or English test for a graduating Grade 11 or 12 student of a century ago we will see that the standard was much higher than it is today. There are some practical reasons for this because we are trying to bring everybody through the high school system....... which is wonderful........... but there is a cost as well.

    My grandfather George Malloy, although he had bleeding ulcers, was one of the two guys in our area who could put a fair amount of air under a forty gallon drum of oil. Those things would weigh about five hundred pounds and were awfully hard to get hold of as well. A five gallon pail of wax or stripper is about my limit......… and I have to be careful that even that doesn't cause something to pop!

    My ability to memorize.........… seems to be only a fraction of what my mom or Uncle Bill Malloy could do!
     
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    One of the reasons for our astonishing progress over the past two centuries........ is that our decreased physical strength and energy.....(on average) ..... has tended to make us somewhat less competitive ...… partly because we just don't have the energy to bother competing as much as was the norm a century ago.......... We are being somewhat more cooperative with each other.............. because we tend to realize that we really do not have all that much choice!

    How could Moses........ as gifted as he was........... have known the astonishing truth in this statement?

    Genesis 11:6


    "And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. "

    If we humans will really cooperate with each other.........… our productive capability is truly off the scale!

    Although fluoride is obviously bad for us......… it does tend to make us more docile....... a little more humble by some definitions of the term........ and thus more cooperative....... both with each other as well as with a central government.......(or at least with a local government of some form)!

    Former atheist Howard Storm was obviously a very bright guy even before his NDE..... .but how in the world did he discern this astonishing capability that humanity has at this time?

    http://www.near-death.com/storm.html#a04

    This is an astonishingly insightful....... and true statement....... this world can become united....... and America can lead the charge......… one method for this is for America to become a nation that sends out documentary and reality film producers to all the earth....... who are financed............. at a much higher level than we are used to dealing with.

    If............. the highest level of intelligence in the universe/multiverse......… does care about individual humans.........… even ones who are homeless and seemingly without much influence........ then....... by definition....... each human life would have intrinsic infinite value to that Creator........... and when the metaphorical or literal....... David and Cyrus are raised up to lead Jews and Gentiles...… into an era of peace........... documentary and reality films that improve the lives of humans will have a high value placed on them......… even if they could not be all that successful under the existing economic mentality!

    Two groups of people should put in an extremely high bid for the company Monsanto........ because even the projects that they have embarked on that are seriously and terribly flawed......… even those have artistic and educational value....... that will amaze people of the year 2150 and 2250 and on!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...urrencies-finance-films-address-problems.html

    New Age Communities can print local currencies finance films that address problems?!
     
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    But..... without conflict a film..... or even a book tends to be boring......… so the financing of this massive series of documentary plus reality films must be produced by two basically different groups......… that strangely does correspond well with the two or three major political parties/ movements in the USA.

    The G. O. P. can work with more effectively with...… churches........ but over the coming years and decades it is theoretically possible for the average Republican...… to have much much less of a mentality of scarcity..... or poverty........... and have a much higher belief that it is possible to help homeless people get into at least some form of shelter that meets their basic needs!

    Theoretically........ a volunteerism hour or dollar...… can save America's banking industry..... because it is rather obvious that the first objective should be to purchase the extra housing that is on the market..........

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ations-should-print-their-own-currencies.html

    Large churches in democratic nations should print their own currencies.
     
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    About a month ago I read "The Thrice Born" on GoogleBooks and I would recommend this because the authors give an impressive explanation on how the genetic diversity may perhaps have gotten in there.....in somewhat less time than the scientifically inclined might tend to imagine.

    A few years from now I may well recommend this book to my daughter..... so that she gets another angle on what may have happened....... that does not rule out either evolutionary theory or the Judaeo - Christian Creation Myth. (Personally...… it is possible for a myth to actually be true or largely true..... and I believe that we will be astonished once all the background information has been revealed about human history)!

    http://www.amazon.ca/Thrice-Born-Pray-Angels-Book-ebook/dp/B00Q8M18QE
     
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    Oops, I forgot to add the necessary link to this:

     
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    Dennis....it is not my intention to turn anyone away from their own Religious Beliefs.

    However THIS IS A DEBATE FORUM....and those who might have issues with other people expressing their opinions and views as well as present SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE....should NOT be getting upset with such data or opinion.

    Now I KNOW you do not do this and you are intelligent enough to understand that thousands of years ago Ancient Man was looking for answers and ancient man made up some answers.

    There are a number of things written in the Torah and in Tanakh in particular that shows us how MISTRANSLATIONS effected religion.

    As well in the Old Testament which the Roman Imperial Biblical Canon used the Torah to write the Old Testmanent as well as used what data they had to write the New Testament......such things as GENESIS....although lovely poetic stories are just that....STORIES...written by man.

    If there is a GOD....and I am fairly certain any such existing GOD is NOTHING like ancient man thought it might be nor is it even a singular entity as far as my educated guess.....such a GOD has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DAILY GOINGS ON UPON PLANET EARTH OR ANY OTHER PLANET WITH LIFE AND INTELLIGENT LIFE EXISTING IN AT LEAST THIS ONE UNIVERSAL REALITY!!

    So...why am I an Agnostic and Spiritual?

    I am an Agnostic as nay follower of the SCIENTIFIC METHOD WORTH THEIR SALT WOULD BE!!

    I am Spiritual....because in my vast experiences I have seen and experienced things that point to there being a BLEEDING OVER of other Divergent Universal States of Reality into our own.

    But the answers we all seek are not in any book or within the words of some guy on a Mountain Top in the Himalayas.

    The answers we seek are within ourselves.

    It is a horrible think to kill a man.

    I never wanted to hurt anything or anyone but as I got older and as I grew to understand things and as the Mental and Physical Genetic Gifts I recieved from my Parents and Grandparents took hold....I understood something.

    SOMEONE has to be there to STOP those who kill for no reason....for Political or Religious reasons...or because they are Sociopaths.

    And I grew to understand that these people were born GENETICALLY FLAWED....in that they could not see what they were doing or what they were taking away.

    So I CHOSE....no one forced me.....I CHOSE....to become a person that would STOP people like this.

    The thing is many people like this use the Koran, Torah, Bible, Hindu Bible...etc....to JUSTIFY THEIR MURDEROUS ACTIONS!!!

    There is NO GOD IN SUCH ACTIONS OR THOUGHTS.

    If there is a GOD....it is all that is wonderful and it is a part of all things living or not.

    But such a GOD.....is not going to stop the vicious and violent murderous actions of other Human Beings.

    Those are things and JOBS for myself and my Team.

    AboveAlpha
     

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