A message from Pete Carroll on what we can do to help combat racism.

How does that contradict anything from my post?

 

Gosh, let's discuss that for sure. Who put those ridiculous grievances in their heads? When did just being an American give way to having to exclude your culture from everyone else? When did it become necessary for folks in black communities to live a lifestyle that breeds contempt for the nation? I harken back to Michelle Obama lamenting that until the nation nominated her husband to be a candidate for President, she'd never felt pride in the nation. You have to wonder why. Is it value or virtue signaling? Was it a condition of equality that grievance mongering thusly had to emerge to counter it? It seems to be the case. The case where equality under the law. Equality in the marketplace. Equality in the economy are things that were developed over the decades following the final destruction of democratic party led social segregation. The Woodrow Wilson doctrine, the Jim crowe doctrines. Vanished in the blink of an eye. And yet, grievance continued.

And why is that? Race hustling windbags like Jesse Jackson? The sudden realization that pejorative power brokering from black leadership in America granting their power to the democratic party? Al Sharpton demanding the world listen to his public lies? Or is it folks like Rev Write who couldn't let go of revolutionary excitement? The desire to punish the people with new found enthusiasm in the early 70s? Joining on to marxist ideology because it was "counter culture" and all? This is the breeding ground of today's grievance culture. We should ignore it.

So when my neighbors who are black don't have the worries that you or Pete trot out, and they are comfortable, they are respected, they are safe in their community, are you addressing them with your comment?

You worry about "are the laws followed"? Provide examples where they are not. Address them to ensure they aren't going forward. That isn't the same as grievance mongering though.You suggest you don't want to "divide the nation" and yet that is essentially the founding principle behind BLMs and ANTIFA. It's why they were DESIGNED to do. And you full throatily endorse them, all over these boards. So why would anyone suddenly take you seriously that just now, you want to "heal" anything? And frankly, what conditionality would you accept that demonstrates that healing? Does it require black folks getting a really big check? Would that suffice? I know lots of folks who think writing a check makes the bad things go away. I'm not one of them. I think it just creates more dependence. but that's probably one of the main reasons that progressive politics don't appeal to me. Folks are individuals. They shouldn't ever allow themselves to become dependent, or otherwise treated in the monolithic way Democrats treat them. When Joe Biden says, if you don't vote for me, you aren't black, or when he says, "the black community isn't diverse". he's saying that exact thing. And you seem to want to support that.

 

If you wouldn't tolerate say an invading army looting and burning your town, why would you tolerate BLM or ANTIFA doing it?

 

By the way over looks Bornu, Benin, Zimbabwe, and Songhai, just off the top if my head.

 

He's translated his waning athletic career into "celebrity" of note and transformed from a highly entitled rich mostly white kid into a virtue signaler who get's paid for doing it.

 

Kaepernick has served his own personal interests very well.

 

Compare to Europe and Asia.

"Navigable waterways have been economically crucial, especially during thousands of years of human history before the development of railroads, trucks, and airplanes. Before the transcontinental railroad was built, it was both faster and cheaper to reach San Francisco from a port in China than from Saint Louis. People in the city of Tbilisi bought their kerosene from Texas-- 8,000 miles away across water -- rather than from the Baku oil fields, less than 400 miles away across land."

"Such vast differences in costs between water transport and land transport affect what can be transported and how far. Gold or diamonds can repay the costs of transport across thousands of miles of land, but grain or coal cannot. More important, the size of a people's cultural universe depends on how far they can reach out to other peoples and other cultures. No great civilization has developed in isolation. Geography in general and navigable waterways in particular set the limits of a people's cultural universe, broadly or narrowly. But these limits are by no means set equally for all peoples or all civilization."
RACE, CULTURE, AND EQUALITY1, By Thomas Sowell.
http://tsowell.com/spracecu.html

 

First thing we do is stop the misuse of the term "racist" , that'll cure 99% of it.

 

And you would listen to someone who is not ......"a rich white guy "?
In what universe.....?

 

Okay. Sounds good....what next?

 

That's easy...they are my neighbors, my fellow Americans, some of them fought side by side in wars to protect this country...
some gave their lives to make the world a better place for everyone.
Perhaps the real problem is that folks like yourself think you are better than those protestors...
and they are not every bit as worthy of life as you are.

 

So all this came from Ms. Walcoff's book?

 

I don't recall actual slaves getting college educations and chances at making millions of dollars as pro athletes. Apparently you know something the rest of us don't.

 

Hmmm.. well, first, facts, not in evidence. The question is why tolerate that mob burning down your city, or community and you're response is "because they earned the right to do so? Seriously? So, you'd tolerate them burning down your house? Attacking or killing your family? All because you just said the above? And that was your "easy" answer.

Know what? I don't think I'm "better". Folks can go out and protest and holler, and scream to their hearts content. As long as they don't burn down the city, as long as they don't incite violence, as long as they don't call for the destruction of our nation. I'm all good with that. But, here's the hard question. Why do you seem entitled enough to make a decision for the rest of us because you feelz that even looting and rioting are super and the rest of us have to both pay the bill and clean it up for you?

 

Just a question though. Is that why you listen to Biden?

 

No I would not listen to it from anybody who subscribes to the ideology of white privilege. I find it to be a racist concept that all whites are successful just because of the color of their skin. I am most definitely not going to listen to it from a coastal elitist who is making a better living than I ever will directly off the backs of black talent, while refusing to comply with the demands of the people he is supporting. He is virtue signaling to get SJW points and I'm calling out the BS as many white Americans need to begin doing. Time to put this racism to bed so we can progress as a unified society.

 

No they didnt. Most of them are from out of town and looters and rioters regardless of where they come from deserve neither sufferance respect or tolerance.

 

And I think that is generally true. Isolated people develop individual cultures- for example some valleys in the middle east used to prevent interaction between residents of adjacent valleys to the extent that languages changed to the point where they couldn't communicate. However it would seem that all people would be able to arrive at some fundamental conclusions about societies, for example the ideas of equal justice, of having no right to take life without cause, things of that nature. Unfortunately humans often rationalize such things to take advantage of others. Humanity still has a long way to go.

 

Quality. I see your point. Really Excellent!

 

And there is the problem! Coaching/coddling is what's got us where we are present day!

 

And who is going to fix it, politicians? They are the root of sedition and always have been..

But all the luck to you

 

So you're putting a limit on what can use as argument?

 

Yep. Bet that's exactly what the British said about the tea party.

 

Well....that's true for tRUMP anyway.

 

Talk about BS....you think tRUMP is interested in "progress as a unified society"???
go back to sleep...you're dreaming