A Pattern of Criminality, Disease, and Disrespect Emerging at "Occupy" Protests

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  1. Blackrook

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    The facts are the facts, and they don't go away when you ignore them.

    Because conservatives are more concerned with how the world actually works, rather than how it should work in some fantasy context, the facts almost always favor our way of thinking.

    The left believes it can create a fantasy world where all is peace and light, and there is no badness anywhere, and Bambi's mother never gets shot when she runs through the meadow.

    But that world will never exist, because it cannot exist. There will always be darkness in the souls of human beings, and because of that, there will always be darkness in the world on some level.

    Conservatives can deal with that, and leftists can't.

    Lefists are constantly unhappy because the world isn't "fair" and they whine incessently about it. But everyone over the age of two should have been taught by their parents that the world isn't "fair". Sometimes, your brother gets a bigger piece of pie than you do.

    So you can either whine and demand the world give you more pie, as leftists do.

    Or you can buy some flour, some fruit, some sugar, and bake your own pie.

    And while most people in the world are baking their pies, the "Occupy" people are grabbing pie from other people and not giving anything back in return.

    It's time to put a stop to this, and make all these ungrateful whiners go home to their Mommies who will take care of them, since they obviously can't take care of themselves.
     
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    one man's "hippie" is another man's "free-stuff loathing hypocrites." when there is a common cause it will be addressed sooner or later.
     
  3. 17thAndK

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    I don't do spoon-feeding, so crawl down out of the highchair and do a little self-directed learning. See if you can find National Park Service statements about right-wing allegations of unusual littering at the "One Nation Moving Forward" rally in DC. See if you can find statements from National Trust for Historic Preservation officials about occupation of the Wisconsin state capitol. The myth of right-wing cleanliness versus liberal slovenliness is just another meme of phony narcissism invented and then passed around on the right-wing. You can believe this slop or not as you wish.
     
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    What did anyone expect when you get that many progressives together?

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  5. 17thAndK

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    Some things never change. Dumbness shouldn't be one of them but often is. 99% is used in contrast to the top 1% -- those people who make the papers all the time for having been handed so much already by the right-wing which eagerly awaits the chance to give them (I should say us, being a part of it) even more.

    Would that be 1 - 47%? As in the outdated number of people who pay no income taxes? You should know but seemingly don't that the 47% has become 51%. You should also know but don't that it doesn't mean what you think it means. It is the percentage of people who file a 1040 showing positive AGI who end up owing no NET income taxes. Little Frat Boy Bobbie who gets a summer job at Daddy's place and spends his entire 13 weeks trying to hook up with all the hot chicks down in Accounting ends up filing a 1040 in January to get back all the taxes that socialists withheld from his paycheck while he was "working". He's a part of the 51%. In fact, better than 20% of the 51% are students who file a 1040 only to claim a refund of the tax withheld at summer or part-time jobs that they don't actually owe. Time to clamp down on these kids for trying to pay for an education, is it?
     
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    They do when you turn off FOX News. Of course, those aren't technically facts, I suppose.
     
  7. BestViewedWithCable

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    These are facts.....
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH99q2CRNZg"]Obama Supports Occupy Wall Street - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Bg_AB2pBg"]Nancy Pelosi: God bless occupy Wall Street protestors - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    It's a fact that those are not very recent video recordings of people talking about OWS. Did you deduce something else from them? ​
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH99q2CRNZg"]Obama Supports Occupy Wall Street - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Bg_AB2pBg"]Nancy Pelosi: God bless occupy Wall Street protestors - YouTube[/ame]
     
  10. Eighty Deuce

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    LOL ... so about a month is not "recent" enough ?

    Or maybe Pelosi and Obama are such political hack idiots that they should have waited before embracing what was so clearly going to turn out as mobs of lingering losers whining for free-stuff :)
     
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    You are so right comrade! We should rise up and (*)(*)(*)(*) on the first cop car we see! Rise up! Death to the oligarchs!!! We should redouble our efforts to fight the grotesque income and wealth disparity that has been allowed to mestasticize through fealty to corporate overlords!!! Power to the People!! We must fight harder for economic and and internet broadband equality removing the chains and shackles of oppressive capitalism! We must end the tyranny of the capitalist planet rapers that the temerity to exploit the people for their labor and cruelly dares to enslave them to a life of earning a wage! We must fight daily for the freedom of all to enjoy a guilt free life of government subsidized dependency!! Rise up Comrade!!.......:-D

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    Download critical updates to your software. OWS has existed at all only since September 17. It has grown, morphed, and been repeatedly subjected to attacks by police since then. "About a month ago" is a long time in the midst of a fluid situation. Then again, right-wingers don't tend to do fluid. They can process only fixed black-and-white images, I guess.

    That bit of stupefied fluff would have earned you a downgrade if such a thing were still possible.
     
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    So, you were in favor of the TARP and other bank bailouts, then? Your motto for social progress is If they have no bread, let them eat cake?
     
  14. Ironball

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    Absolutely not.

    If fact......I'm for a bit of 'trust busting' and 'they are too big not to let them fail' policies.

    TARP, Bailouts, UAW/GM takeover, and the Stimulus were a shocking debacle of corruption, political favoritism, and cronyism.

    The problem is that I do not share the goals of this anti-capitalist group that has devolved into anarchy and mayhem and I am of the opinion that their angst is misdirected. They should be camping out daily at the White House, the Senate, and the Congress.

    I am all for the ol' 'Square Deal'
     
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    Do you have a cost estimate for the "let them fail" option?

    No, they were examples of the lengths that rational people would go to in order to rescue a failing economy once they HAD seen the cost estimates for the "let them fail" option.

    The Square Deal elevated the importance of the middle classes at the expense of the upper classes. It favored tight controls on corporations approaching but not quite all the way to the point of strangling them on the spot. How does that differ from the message of OWS? Or are they just fighting their battle from a venue (cold, muddy parks) that you'd not prefer?
     
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    Well...that excuse would work if there was video of them giving us a more recent recanting of the current behavior. Perhaps you could link that one for us...if not, these remain their most current thoughts on the matter.
     
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    Would you expect their views to change due to all of the violence and damage?


    Oh.. that's right... you don't believe those are reports are credible.


    Why then would you expect their positions to be any different?

    (repeat as often as needed)
     
  18. Ironball

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    A cost estimate to whom? The staggering costs to swell Big Government, favor Big Union, and reward Big Finance by the tax payer is pretty well known.


    No they were examples of the lengths a partisan ideologue would go to turn crisis into opportunity..........gone wrong.


    No, the Square Deal broke up monopolies. It absolutely did not favor tight controls of corporations, it favored a square deal for corporations in return of a square deal for consumers. It is a huge difference from the anti-capitalist, socialist, and Communist factions that make up a large segment of this movement that is spiraling out of control.

    Here are a couple of nice reminders:

    "We demand that big business give the people a square deal; in return we must insist that when anyone engaged in big business honestly endeavors to do right he shall himself be given a square deal."
    -T.R

    "The worst lesson that can be taught a man is to rely upon others and to whine over his sufferings"..... -T.R.
     
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    I think the protesters are giving voice to a more broad-based friustration about how our financial system works.

    How is that an endorsement of any sort of behavior at all? What is it that is supposed to be recanted?
     
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    Verses just taking them at their own words. Which are the rants of anti-capitalist punks who want free stuff.

    OK ...... NOT !
     
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    How many times has the Mayor of Oakland had to apologize for the behavior of police?

    In the videos posted, neither Obama nor Pelosi endorses anything beyond the right of disgruntled people to gather and protest. All they do in essence is report their personal impressions and understandings of the protests and what the underlying purposes of the movement are. What's to get all hot and bothered over?
     
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    How many times have the police in Oakland had to wonder what kind of a jackass they had as Mayor ?
     
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    Another meme from the rightwing noise machine. "The unwashed commie hippies bearing disease are coming to get you!" It's pathetic.
     
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    "Meme" is pathetic. Are you auditioning to be Landru's twin brother ?

    And no one has even implied that such are "coming to get us". What we have noted is how OWS is imploding in its own stupidity and filth. Real big difference from what you have imagined.
     
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    So you're denying that crimes have been committed?
     

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