A Pattern of Criminality, Disease, and Disrespect Emerging at "Occupy" Protests

Spoken like a sensitive, loving, and intelligent human - a real friend of the US. Yeah - OK...

 

Not as pathetic as someone who sticks his head in the sand and pretends there is nothing wrong. I find that sort of dishonest denial to be sad and pitiful.

 

A cost estimate for everyone in the world from having followed the "let them fail" option.

The public sector has been getting smaller, Big Union was back in the day when they represented four times the share of American workers as they do today (you remember the days when the middle class actually had a fighting chance, dont you), and nobody gave ten cents to Wall Street as a reward. The financial system was recapitalized so that the credit on which your job depends could keep flowing. Your "staggering costs" amount to pennies on the dollar in comparison to what the costs of the crisis unchecked would have become.

Rahm went back to Chicago. You can lay off that lame line now.

That was trust-busting.

Read a book. Get a grip. Roosevelt was the spearhead of the Progressive Era, dusting off and enforcing existing laws to control and constrain big business and creating a raft of new laws and regulatory agencies that did the same. The Square Deal was a take-back from the industrialists and robber barons of the Gilded Age. We could use a dose of that again today.

 

Maybe learn the difference between "verses" and "versus" before going off about a proper use of "meme".

Sounds more like a description of the Republican Party, actually.

 

Of course it was trust busting.......as I told you in the initial post.

LOL You need to read a book. In fact even a quick cheat using Google would enhance your credibility a bit. I've even provided you with a couple of direct quotes from T.R. LOL I'm sure you prefer your romanticized revisionist vision of T.R. but vague references to what the "Square Deal" , take-backs, and the "Gilded Age" were are oversimplified and meaningless.

I realize it was two pages ago but I was the one that said: I'm for a bit of 'trust busting' and 'they are too big not to let them fail' policies. You had a problem with that statement.......and behold, not one page later, you advocate a "dose of that again" LOL



"We demand that big business give the people a square deal; in return we must insist that when anyone engaged in big business honestly endeavors to do right he shall himself be given a square deal." -T.R

"The worst lesson that can be taught a man is to rely upon others and to whine over his sufferings"..... -T.R.

 

Then wake up and smell the coffee.

 

Ok, so hygiene is at the root of all this! Pathetic.

(I must remember what Mummy said; 'cleanliness is next to godliness'...)

 

He's right. Christian fundamentalist idiocy is no different from Muslim fundamentalist idiocy. Both are irrelevant anachronisms which don't belong in what purports to be a modern society.
Furthermore America is rapidly losing any friends it might have had. I wonder why that might be...

 

So true...so true.

 

Upsetting the status quo really pisses you off doesn't it? Enjoy your complacency while America slides inexorably down the crapper.

 

LOL ..... if others used "verses of versus" in every post they made, you may have a clue there

As to the Republican Party falling apart. Nov 2, 2010. Then NY-9 this summer. And the VA State Legislature just this past week.

While you got Obamavilles .......... WOOT !

The hits just keep coming !

 

They like to equate their actions to the civil disobediance of the 60's civil rights movement. But the occupiers are not fighting for civil rights, instead they fight for rights that do not exsist. They don't just want equal opportunity, they want equalization of outcome. That is not possible is a free society. I do not see a positive outcome to this situation because the demands of the occupiers can never be met, so they cannot claim victory.

 

Mayor Jean Quan does not have to apologize for the behavior of the police at all. In fact, it is her job to be an advocate for them as she is their boss. It is her job to support the police. Instead, she has undermined her own police department by supporting the occupiers and allowing them to return after the police kicked them out the first time. This is why she may be facing a recall soon after only being in office less that a year.

 

Well said, both have no place in a modern society.

 

Ironic, considering where you are posting from.
Jealously is an ugly emotion.

 

I'm not the one blaming the "right wing noise machine" for the reporting of the dysfunctional criminal Occupy movement.

You clowns spent the better part of two years demonizing the Tea Party and when your lot takes the spotlight what we get is chaos, violence and criminal assault. Put that in your meme-hole!

 

Jealous of the (*)(*)(*)(*)storm which America created and is now infecting Europe? Nope, not even close.

 

And it's distinct from the Square Deal, which was the point.

Here's another one. Sorry that it's a little longer than the simplistic soundbites you provided...

Now, this means that our government, National and State, must be freed from the sinister influence or control of special interests. Exactly as the special interests of cotton and slavery threatened our political integrity before the Civil War, so now the great special business interests too often control and corrupt the men and methods of government for their own profit. We must drive the special interests out of politics... For every special interest is entitled to justice, but not one is entitled to a vote in Congress, to a voice on the bench, or to representation in any public office. The Constitution guarantees protection to property, and we must make that promise good. But it does not give the right of suffrage to any corporation. The true friend of property, the true conservative, is he who insists that property shall be the servant and not the master of the commonwealth; who insists that the creature of man's making shall be the servant and not the master of the man who made it. The citizens of the United States must effectively control the mighty commercial forces which they have themselves called into being.

Context. TR did not exist or think in a vacuum. What was the history of his era weighed heavily on his thinking. Take the Panic of 1893, for example. You remember that, don't you? It was why McKinley and TR -- the two Progressives -- were elected in the first place. Any idea if TR's views born of that long ordeal might have contributed to the genesis of the Elkins Act, the Hepburn Act, the Pure Food and Drug Act, the Meat Safety Act, or his calls for federal income and inheritance taxes?

 

"Come take a ride & run with the dogs tonite ,in suburbia in suburbia ..."

 

Where did Chief Batts go? Has the Oakland PD ever been in any kind of trouble like this before? Are they theatened now with the possibility of a federal takeover?

 

I'm not sure precisely your intent with this quote as I find very little to disagree with.

Context is indeed important. Particularly those who are tempted to make comparisons of of 1901 -1909 T.R. to modern day liberal progressives. He along with others was considered a Republican progressive chiefly after he failed to garner the Republican nomination in favor of Taft and hastily formed the Bullmoose Party. Context is also important when considering the day and age, a time when there when there were relatively hardly any rules, any basic safeties. Upton Sinclairs book "The Jungle" inspired a push for basic food safeties.

Another point, T.R. wasn't "elected", he was V.P. to McKinley and assumed office upon McKinley's assassination. He did however handily win re-election.

One of my favorite quotes:

If an American is to amount to anything he must rely upon himself, and not upon the State; he must take pride in his own work, instead of sitting idle to envy the luck of others; he must face life with resolute courage, win victory if he can and accept defeat if he must, without seeking to place on his fellow-men a responsibility which is not theirs. T.R.

 

Right roll because it's America that is causing the implosion of the EU and the failures of Greece, Italy, Spain, Ireland, etc.

Only a real moron would blame the US for the nations in Europe that are collapsing under the weight of their own grasshopperist economies. Thanks for proving this so eloquently.

 

It illustrates Roosevelt's bent toward bringing corporations not just to heel, but to subservience, a point that you has seemed to object to earlier.

Here's another related quote...

The chief reason, among the many sound and compelling reasons, that led to the formation of the National Government was the absolute need that the Union, and not the several States, should deal with interstate and foreign commerce; and the power to deal with interstate commerce was granted absolutely and plenarily to the central government... The proposal to make the National Government supreme over, and therefore to give it complete control over, the railroads and other instruments of interstate commerce is merely a proposal to carry out to the letter one of the prime purposes, if not the prime purpose, for which the Constitution was founded.

Has anyone done that?

He was already considered a progressive regardless of party in the 1890's. He would go on to polish that reputation in his first term and wear it proudly in his second.

Nor much inclination apart from the growing progressive movement for there to be any. The Lochner-era courts of the time -- starstruck to some degree by the wonders of industrialization -- were loathe to support restrictions and struck down many. As noted, Roosevelt was the spearhead, using federal regulatory powers to accomplish a variety of ends that other means had failed of.

Was Joe Biden elected?

 

im not part of their group, i work for a living and dont ask for handouts or others to be taxed more so i can have more money in my pocket.

those so called protestors calling themselves the 99% are truly nothing but a minority of losers who want to make it harder for me so they can coast in life.

they are more like the 20% of lazy pricks and criminals who want everything to be given to them.

 

Do you think it's a good idea that others be taxed less and live life to the hilt so you can have less money in your pocket and need to struggle to get by? That's what Bush did to you.

Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen them asking anything for themselves. It seems to me they are willing to camp out in the cold and wind and rain to support the needs and interests of those who don't happen to be wealthy or powerful in general, whether those be among the 130 million or so who work or the 180 million or so who don't.