A Question for Republicans: Who Is Donald Trump?

"Complex" a variation of the "Military-Industrial" Complex that President Eisenhower warned against. It has come to pass in a way more far reaching than he could have imagined.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military–industrial_complex

For our leftists on the board with a gnat's toenail awareness of factual U.S. history (and that's by purposeful design of the "edu" part of the Complex), there were no significant public unions in Eisenhower's day. Unions served a useful function in the private sector... for a time, but even progressive Democrats agreed that allowing public sector employees to organize as against the private sector taxpayer was a very bad, dangerous idea.

Today we have tens of millions of ticks feeding at the public union trough, making outsized pay for little work, outrageous benefits and pensions the private sector can't afford, always MEWLING for more and more, and a veritable army of taxpayer funded shills in public union PR departments all throughout MSM, entertainment, the net at large, and on this forum. These shills perpetuate all the most toxic lie narratives of the Complex, racism, gender inequality, wealth inequality, income inequality, the "rich" (really ALL taxpayers) not "paying their fair share," failures of capitalism, evil private sector, hundreds more, ALL lies.

In Eisenhower's day, the government "contractor culture" had not exploded yet. Today we have more government contractors than actual government employees (FAR more). This hidden rate of government growth has been near exponential since the 70s, includes everyone from military contractors to the crony corrupt who sell the government every kind of overpriced product imaginable and line the pockets of our corrupt government elite in return.

In Eisenhower's day, "grant culture" did not meaningfully exist. Today, millions of people in the U.S. all over the planet live off government grants and crooked "aid." Keeping these troughs up and running requires that taxes and spending remain high, and that's exactly the intent, health of the country and equity be damned.

In Eisenhower's day, the education industry at all levels was not a monolithic anti-taxpayer organized behemoth, today it is enriched to unreal degrees, all founded on lies that "education product" is the same as an education when it is not. This rotten teacher's apple pushes the same fake narratives and self-enriching lies that the broader Complex pushes.

In Eisenhower's day, the litigation culture of the corrupt and incredibly rich and powerful plaintiff's bar did not exist. Lawyers practiced a profession, did not make themselves deca millionaires at the expense of a 10-20% hidden tax on ALL goods and services that EVERYONE buys. Without a gullible, sheeplike jury pool and lots of anti private sector propaganda, this trough would not be near as lucrative.

In Eisenhower's day, there were three television stations, not the MSM that employs tens of millions in all outlets today. This includes Hollywood, TV, all print, the net. The whole beast feeds on redistribution, taking more and more from people who earned it and giving it to stupid people who will spend it on junk. So it peddles the same toxic narratives the Complex at large does.

So yes, Eisenhower's dire warning, a warning he thought important enough to include in his last address to the country, has transformed into something far more grotesque and vile, from a "Military Industrial" Complex to a GOV-EDU-UNION-CONTRACTOR-GRANTEE-TRIAL LAWYER-MSM COMPLEX with overlapping interests ALL at the expense of the average private sector taxpayer.

And the reality of it is far more awful than old Ike could have ever imagined.

You're welcome for the history lesson.

 

Of course they exist for the common man, just got to know where to look and how to play.

 

They do not.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

 

No, they know what he is- he's their son of a bitch and that's good enough for them.
The whiners don't really care about America, just their own selfish interests, so they are eager to swallow the bullshit of anyone who plays the grievance card for them.
But trump doesn't care about them and he runs his administration like a mafia don.

 

It is weird that the left in the US has had a love affair with Russia since 1917, but somehow, that reversed itself starting in 2013. Opinions vary on why that happened, but it was a startling sea change of opinion that occurred very rapidly.

 

As the empiricist that you claim to be, I'm sure you have an example of a court case in which it was decided solely on the basis of one of the parties being rich and powerful against the common man?

 

Eisenhower is dead and buried. Life goes on. I come from a liberal paradise, where a research university, several national laboratories, and a variety of high tech companies work in a wonderful symbiotic relationship, in a lovely natural setting. Although the seeds were sown in the late 1800’s, when the good people of Boulder lobbied to bring the University of Colorado to their town. The town they christened the Athens of the West.

They survived The Depression by putting locals to work building water works projects taking advantage of conservation programs FDR gave us. It was at the height of WWII when the Feds built their first National Laboratories in Boulder. It is when the symbiotic relation first began. It was followed by more Laboratories and a few large technology companies, like IBM set up shop. Soon it became a high tech start up Mecca. The Laboratories researched nature which the local companies applied to innovative products. The university supplied a ready supply of engineers, scientists, and marketers. As well the university, a research university at that, also suppled a great deal of basic research.

It becomes symbiotic as a graduate from the University goes to work for a local company. Just the nature of the industry, workers, engineers, scientists and whatnot, bounce from company to company, and to Lab and back to a company. It all gets mixed as the players are mixed from project to project.

The natural food movement though, that has been there from the beginning. Part of the original vision of clean natural living upon which the city was founded.

Lately, the city installed a bunch of small hydroelectric plants to capture the energy of the snow melt as it comes careening down the mountains. Allowing the city and County a carbon neutral electrical system.

Complain about the complex all you want, but life is good here, better than most places. Much better than a lot of places.

 

He's globalism's mortal enemy. Thats all I ever hoped he'd be. The economy is a nice bonus.

 

While there was a fraction on the left who liked the Soviet Union, it has never been the case that “the Left” loved Russia, as it has always been a backward repressive country. Seems like calling liberals communists and socialists has just long been part of the Republican theology, moreso than a reflection of reality.

When the Soviet Union was coming apart, it was the liberals in Russia that pushed hardest to break up the Union while it was the conservatives in Russia who tried hardest to keep it together. After the collapse, I started to wonder what American conservatives would do. It had come to my attention that conservatives tend to need an enemy to hate on. Without the fear of Soviets, I thought that conservatives would latch onto another enemy to obsess over. Luckily bin Laden solved that problem.

It is most likely the case that Russians have been marketing themselves to conservatives. In fact that is what I have been alleging all along. Why Trump supporters aren’t bothered by the fact that the Russians have been influencing Trump, including funneling money into his campaign.

But then I could see how modern conservatives would love Russia. An oligarchy with a dictatorial President. Seems like a conservative paradise to me.

 

All this post did was dance around the elephant in the room... capitalism is what broke up the Soviet union and some people had a heart attack in the United states

 

He is not a democrat, good enough for me )!


https://www.theguardian.com/technol...ed-to-members-of-congress-investigation-shows

 

Just to be clear, when I'm referring the left, I'm referring to the American left, not some imaginary Internationale of worldwide leftists who have exactly the same policy positions. Also, you'll know nothing about American conservatives if you think Russian and American "conservatives" are all the same.

That would explain the obtuse angle of many of your posts however...

Again, you are frightfully ignorant of what conservatives think or believe. Some education, even a little bit, on the topics at hand would do you wonders.

 

What an idiotic, nonresponsive thing to post. Not surprised given the source.

You come from a place created out of nothing by the private sector, coopted into leftism by California refugees and other white-flighters who opine ignorantly to the rest of us about progressive "ideals" from a literal crystal tower.

Could care less about your nonresponsive, inaccurate, red herring fairy tale downplaying all the many purely private sector advances that created your locale (EVERY locale in the U.S. also) and trying in vain, as all Complex progressives do, to revise some larger role that government played than it did in fact contribute.

 

Not surprising that you are unwilling to face facts that don’t square with your narrative. As usual.

 

Predictable, because you can't even -form- or especially -convincingly advocate- a coherent position, you repeat red herrings and half-claims in post after post. Not surprised, you've been doing the same thing as long as I've been a member here.

Please continue though, and do remember, YOU and YOURS are the true electors of Donald Trump. How does that feel?

 

Just to be clear, when I mention the Left, I am talking about real people. Not the pretended Left that conservatives like to trash talk.

My views of conservatives is based upon observations. I can watch conservative commentators on television, I can talk to conservatives in person, it is all kind of the same. Smarmy marmy flights of fancy.

 

So your view of conservatism, "But then I could see how modern conservatives would love Russia. An oligarchy with a dictatorial President. Seems like a conservative paradise to me,"
you gleaned from observation?

I would say you are a poor observer.