A Real Patriot Speaks Out

Or maybe he just doesn't like cowards who set and denigrate the military, and real heroes.

 

Surprisingly you omitted factual actions of the Truman /UN action in Korea, the lies and micro-management of LBJ in Vietnam, Obama's premature retreat from Iraq allowing the ME to reignite multiple times worse than it was in 2003. In addition Obama increased his micro-management and the number of KIA and wounded in Afghanistan and made targets of those he left there.

 

Lie lie lie at WHAT? I've said since the beginning that the reason we went to war, from a soldier's perspective is 100% irrelevant. The United States UTTERLY destroyed Iraq. I cannot give two shits how strong or weak their military was, as that was not the point of my post. The point was responding to the post about us "not winning a war in the middle east".

When did we "defeat al Qaeda"? The same question as if we defeated the Nazis. We haven't. There are still Nazis and there are still Al Qaeda operatives. Al Qaeda was not the majority of Iraqi military, as you seem to believe.

However, within 3 months we totally destroyed the ALQ network in 3 major cities of AFG resulting in a full retreat into the caves in mountains. Much quicker than going against N Vietnam.

Unfortunately for you, combat would be something you only see in the movies

 

Hahaha what is "secret intelligence"? That's a double negative. Clearly you have as much military knowledge as my 6 year ole niece.

Let me guess, you were an Airborne Ranger Navy SEAL Marine Recon Air Force PJ?

Haha

 

I meant intelligence that cannot be shared with the general public. It's probably the word "intelligence" that you're unaccustomed to hearing.

There's no reason to continue this unproductive conversation.

Bye...

 

But, let's be fair. We can't leave out a couple of other well-known chickenhawk righties, such as: dick Cheney (how many, five deferments? This world-class coward said he "had better things to do"). Also, too, there's the Orange Chicken-hawk who wears a dead rat on his head. He talks tough, but when it comes down to fighting he hides under his bed, and sends brainless tweets.

 

So only someone who volunteered for the military has the moral authority to serve as President? Funny I dont recall that Obama served nor did Biden and nor did the last Democrat candidate.

 

Are they supposed to or something?

 

You went from a rational response to one a partisan BS. Obama followed the schedule placed on him by Bush43, and then further complicated by the government Bush installed in Iraq refusing to grant American soldiers immunity. And I am not surprised you forgot the "surge" in Afghanistan. And what do you expect to happen when you double the number of combatants in an area? That the number of killed/wounded would decrease?

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...ies-came-after-obama-ordered-troops-increased

 

Funny, I don't recall my saying that. And since I don't vote for Republicans, Democrats, liars, cowards, adulterers, etc., and prefer to vote for honest candidates, I can quite understand the consternation of those who lack the integrity to vote for the person, not the party.

 

What war did we win? We did not "decimate" the Iraqi army as you claim, it was disbanded. So, who were we fighting? Was it not al Queda, and other terrorists groups? And who are we fighting now?

If not for al Queda what reason did we have to invade Iraq? Afghanistan? And as i pointed out, and you are too ignorant to understand, 4 months after we invaded Iraq we were training the Iraqi army, not killing them.

[quote[However, within 3 months we totally destroyed the ALQ network in 3 major cities of AFG resulting in a full retreat into the caves in mountains. Much quicker than going against N Vietnam.[/quote]

More of your rewriting of history proving again you were never there.

http://www.understandingwar.org/report/al-qaeda-iraq-resurgent

Al-Qaeda in Iraq is resurgent. Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) reached its apex of territorial control and destructive capability in late 2006 and early 2007, before the Surge and the Awakening removed the organization from its safe havens in and around Baghdad.1 Subsequent operations pursued AQI northward through Diyala, Salah ad-Din, and Mosul, degrading the organization over the course of 2007-2008 such that only a fraction of its leaders, functional cells, and terroristic capabilities remained and were concentrated in Mosul.2 As of August 2013, AQI has regrouped, regained capabilities, and expanded into areas from which it was expelled during the Surge.

 

Out of the entire population of America only approx. 8.6% of the population has ever served in the military, and only 3% have seen combat. In one study I saw, of the "Young Republicans", a political group, that supported the invasion of Iraq less then 1 out of 10 actually enlisted. Interesting article here:

https://www.laprogressive.com/college-republicans/

 

My daddy always told me "Never ask someone to do something you are not willing to do yourself".

Seems that is another "rule" that has disappeared.

 

Thanks for the links (read the last one, too). Add Paul Ryan to the list of chickenhawks, eh? Hiding under the bed with trump, no doubt.

 

Bovine Excrement....

 

No doubt.

Trump and Ryan, the Coward Patrol.

 

What did the children ask others to do? I didnt know you could force the adult children of a parent to do something becasue of an act by their parent.

 

The interim schedule whcih the next Preaident was then tk negotiate the perment disposition agreement which Obama refused to do so he could pull out the troops and we see what happened after that.

It was an elected government.

And did Obama serve in the military before he orsered those troops into war? Has his daughter enlisted yet?

 

Interesting deflection, and quite irrational. Do you understand the concept of asking others to do what you are not willing to do yourself? Is that beyond your abilities?

 

Setting aside the grammatical errors, what the hell are you talking about?

Point being?

Totally irrelevant. Question you might ask would be would he avoid service if required to do so as Trump, Cheney, Rumsfield, Bush (he used his daddies influence to get into the National Guard, and then took a year off to go campaign for a family friend), Gingrich, Romney, Wolfowitz, and the list goes on.

 

What? The Founding Fathers wouldn't be called the Founding Fathers without a war against a foreign nation.

 

More of your rewriting of history proving again you were never there.

http://www.understandingwar.org/report/al-qaeda-iraq-resurgent

Al-Qaeda in Iraq is resurgent. Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) reached its apex of territorial control and destructive capability in late 2006 and early 2007, before the Surge and the Awakening removed the organization from its safe havens in and around Baghdad.1 Subsequent operations pursued AQI northward through Diyala, Salah ad-Din, and Mosul, degrading the organization over the course of 2007-2008 such that only a fraction of its leaders, functional cells, and terroristic capabilities remained and were concentrated in Mosul.2 As of August 2013, AQI has regrouped, regained capabilities, and expanded into areas from which it was expelled during the Surge.[/QUOTE]

We fought 11 XPACs of the former Republican guard for most of my deployment. They SIDED with ALQ but were NOT

 

Serving in the military is not a requirement for serving as Commander-in-Chief. Bush the Elder (or Smarter, if you prefer) was the last vet to be elected and McCain was the last vet to be nominated for President. It would be nice if Republican politicians who routinely question the patriotism of other citizens, as they are wont to do, had served.

 

Trump is a draft dodger who got out of service with a fake medical deferement.

 

Wait a minute.Trump spoke highly of the military, and always does. Yet you find cowardice and denigration in that? You and Williams don't make any sense. And what kind of bravery and honor does it take to accuse someone of something that isn't true?