Abbas admits 1947 rejection of Jewish state a huge mistake

An equitable land swap would be a better and more realistic approach - win-win for every party involved.

 

You sound exactly like a pissed-off Zionist discovering that a 'jewish State ' and a democracy are not possible simultaneously. Tough titty. Choose one or the other and see what happens.

 

And which bit of Israeli land do you suggest would be swapped for the fertile land taken by the settlers? What will be done with the Palestinians who are enclaved by some of the settlements?

Coming from my own western opinion I favour a three state solution being Gaza, West bank and Israel. Most of the settlements dismantled and Jerusalem kept as an independent of all states controlled by something similar to the UN

 

The problem is that Israel is not punishing Palestinians for their mistakes not 67 years ago but for several times the Palestinians have chose to support war again and again, and now they still support war by refusing to go after Hamas.

Israel and Allies including the USA will be willing to aid and support Pres. Abbas Palestinian Authority to destroy Hamas if Abba will request it just like the Egyptians and Libyans requested the West to help them. But Abbas refuse to do so instead he pretends that there is no Hamas issue.

How can Israel negotiate with Abbas if Hamas is waging war? Will Abbas accept negotiation that involve PA control territory only? What will Abbas do if for example Israel agree to a peace that include Hamas territory how will Abbas guarantee Israel's borders against Hamas attacks?

IMO, Abbas is just in denial and wants to pass the buck to Israel, that is the main problem. The Muslims kept on passing the problem to someone else they blame others except themselves.

Jordan in 1972 finally realise that their Muslim neighbours are at fault decided to separate from them and sign a peace treaty with Israel surrendering ALL CLAIMS TO JERUSALEM.

 

I somehow doubt the Jews want to absorb 5 million poor uneducated and mostly violent people in their borders.

Ask Italy if they want to merge with Ethiopia ^^

 

That can certainly work too and it arguably makes more sense than a two state solution...except of course that the Arab/Palestinian rhetoric notwithstanding, they share moon's views, they will never agree to the existence of Israel as a Jewish majority state. Their game plan is to wait till they can destroy it either militarily or demographically (either one state solution or the right of return)

 

Tripe. A ' jewish majority ' State is not a ' jewish State' in the sense that neoZionist ********s intend. You'll regret your support for fascism, Borat, I dare say. The Internet never forgets.

 

I don't support fascism, I support the existence of a Jewish state and an Arab state in Palestine as mandated by the UN partition resolution...yeah the one that the Jews accepted and Arabs did not and invaded Israel.

You are the one who has come out in support of every arab/muslim dictator, every muslim theocracy, every manifestation of fascist Sharia law anywhere in the world. You are part of the Islamo-Nazi movement, I am not.

 

No, I sound just like somebody who calls your bluff.
By supporting all those Killer rules all through the years and fighting the only democracy around, you are the last person to talk about democracy.
Maybe you're confusing hypocracy with democracy.

 

If you support neoZionism then you support a fascist doctrine. That's demonstrable by its record and its current activities. There can't be any argument over that , just avoidance and excuses. There is not one moral argument in support of the invasion of Palestine, not one.

I'm not bluffing and no, you sound like a pissed-off Zionist.

 

Not even Jordan, Egypt, Saudi, Lebanon and Syria wants to absorb the Palestinians who were once their citizens.

 

Are you referring to just the Palestinian people or the Palestinian people AND their land?

 

They are certainly being treated as badly as the non-white Western non-Muslims and the wrong sort of Muslims are in the likes of Saudi and Bahrain...but then, it can't be fun being the wrong sort of Jew in Israel nowadays, either!

 

Both, people and land. Egypt does not want to have anything to do with Gaza, Jordan does not want to hear about absorbing the West Bank. Who can blame them when they get a bunch of scoundrels and their primary objective of wiping Israel off the map remains unsolved.

 

Democracy isn't meant for Arabs. In a single state the Jews will end up like the Copts of Egypt.

 

The United Nations is being delegitimized by its inability to adapt to changed circumstances in the world. The way to destroy the UN is to keep it frozen as it is now.

 

The way to destroy the UN is to keep it frozen by the US veto.

 

Exactly right. And no one on earth can change that. It's perfect. All we have to do is stand back and watch as the American veto delegitimizes the UN.

 

The US government needs to learn that it is a member of the world, not a global dictator.

 

America will never give up its absolute and unconditioned right to veto any and all actions by the UN Security Council. That means the UN won't be allowed to adapt.

America will veto any expansion of the UN Security Council. No other state will ever have a veto except the current five. India, Brazil, South Africa, Japan, Germany, etc. will find themselves stymied.

European leftists can consider the American veto as the gift of American conservatism to the death of the internationalism.

 

Nobody is asking for the US to give up its veto, but rather for it to become a fair and just global player which does not slave to AIPAC. America's heavily bigoted role in the middle east discredits is role as being a fair veto power and makes it more of an anal snobbish jerk that nobody likes. It is not the UN which will be destroyed with such, but rather such will slowly lead to America's decline. Many traders don't want to trade with an abusive jerk. American can act against the world, if it likes, but there are consequences for such, and such can hardly be to America's advantage.

 

The liberal internationalist order is doomed. It is based on Western hegemony. That is quickly coming to an end. It will be replaced by a much more dangerous world in which nuclear weapons technology and ballistic missile technology proliferate.

America will become isolationist with layered missile defenses and the world's best navy. Other than that America will have correct diplomatic relations with most other nation states, ordinary trade, and no other contact with the nations of the eastern hemisphere. There is no reason for any contact other than as outlined above.

 

America's military will crumble without international trade. One cannot finance a war machine without funds to do so.

 

That works too.

 

This shows that the Semites are hated no matter what they do. There is nothing that a Semite can do to not be unconditionally hated by European far-right extreme. Criticizing Abbas for this is absurd. It's extreme. It's racist. There are just some things that one does not blast a Semite with racist hatred with, and this is one of those things. One hates the Semite if she does not support a division and one hates the Semite if he supports a division. So, the Semites are hated no matter what they do. What this boils down to is the fact that Israel heavily motivates its followers to be unconditionally ant-Semite. The Wilders club is unconditionally anti-Semite because it is pro-Israel. It seems that it is no longer possible to support Israel without hating Semites. Israel failed to create a safe-haven for Jews, but it succeeded in creating a reason and motivation for people to unconditionally hate Semites.