Adam Schiff rejects reports that Mueller indictments are over, says special counsel could be called

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  1. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    Do tell!

    Perhaps you can educate us on all the "angles" involved in FEC violations. You made that up, clearly. But here's your chance to dazzle us with your experise.

    You made up the part about the bias of the Southern District of Manhattan.

    I suspect that's because the SDNY has pleanty of evidence of Trump's shady business activities. There is a lot of that out there in public view.

    And, while just about every owner of income producing propoerty does play games with property valuations, doing so for the purpose of defrauding an insurance company in a claim is another matter altogether.

    And Trump is the sort of person who thinks entirely in terms of what he can get away with. What' the point in working for it ,when you can steal it, and try and BS your way into getting away with it?
     
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  2. Bluesguy

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    Oh get off it it's been discussed for months.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Mueller restricted BY THE LAW, the law the Democrats insisted after the Clinton investigation even though Clinton in fact committed multiple felonies and hilarious but sad how the Mueller report was going to be the end all and just wait that will nail Trump and now you and the Dems want to say it was just a waste of time ans NOW we will investigate.
     
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    I don't make stuff up Tom. Don't think that other people operate the way you do.

    There are many angles of defense that can be used against the allegations the creatures in the SDNY appear to be driving towards. First and foremost, the President self funded his own campaign. A candidate has no limitation on the amount of their own money they can spend, and where they can spend it. Again, is Obama in jail for his massive campaign violations?

    Blind accusations from obsessed ideologues are not a sound basis for conviction of anything. The SDNY has a reputation for being extremely aggressive. Given all the leaks they have orchestrated, I don't believe for a minute they will be upholding any standards of fair and impartial work. That's not the goal, after all. 2020 elections are, so the SDNY has willingly taken on the role of providing the basis of 1,000's of headlines and projections from the New Democratic Parties MSM partners leading up to 2020.

    As to your final point, I know you're so over the top with hatred, you have no objectivity, so, why you offered that last bit is beyond me. It's empty of anything worthy of consideration.
     
  5. TomFitz

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    Well, that's what's going to happen. We have known that for well over a year now.

    Why are you acting surprised? Maybe because you bought all the witchunt nonsense from you fuhrer.
     
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    As usual, when you are challenged to back up your own claims, you simply repeat them and made up stuff as backup.

    Trump did not self finance his own campaign. That was always false. You, of all people, ought to know that. After all, the first rule of real estate is "other people's money". And all you have to do to see Trump's devotion to that age old addage is the Trump Foundation, wherein Trump raised money from others and used it as a slush fund to pay his business legal bills, and personal expenses.

    Nor does it matter. People who self finance their campaign are NOT exempt from campaign finance laws, as you falsely try to assert.


    The paragraph about the SDNY is baseless partisan noise. Backed up by nothing. You just repeated yourself louder, which is the right wing version of "backing up" your claim.

    But, then, we know you're a hard core Trumpster. And you are a routine practitioner of blind accustions by obsessed ideologues. That's what you are doing right now.
     
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  7. Bluesguy

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    So why did we even have a Mueller investigation then? You agree it was a witch hunt and a waste of time now?
     
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    The Democrats in the House won by the biggest majority in history. They're not going anywhere. Most Americans prefer split government. More vast ignorance on your part but let the B.S. fling right?
     
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    The house can flip flop quickly. Trump has the wind in his sails. I believe when the Democrats have the presidency, the house and senate, suddenly they want all three under the control of Democrats.

    See that has been the major problem all along. The Democratic party is the cancer. And due to their fiction, promises made but broken, the republicans take back over. Not removing the cancer fast enough allows the Democrats to bind this nation with draconian laws. It is solely about authority to them. We want those bonds shed. Free Americans. Make America great again.
     
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    The very people that started this "collusion" nonsense and the #MSM cheering them on, may be prosecuted. I hope they are. Jim Comey needs to go to jail.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sunday's take on what the Democrats have said all along and how the media is trying to change this along with Democrats.

     
  13. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FOX news and Breitbart are among the leading press to say " We told you so." Trump did not collude.
     
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    You know Tom, your arguments and posts get really boring. Wash, rinse, repeat.

    Stop projecting. You've offered nothing but opinion, so why attack me for doing the same? And why are you continuing to make stuff up about how Trumps campaign was financed? I never implied or suggested a person who self finances is not subject to campaign finance laws. You want to point to where I did that. Another fabrication of yours.

    Any discussion of what is going to happen to the President regarding the SDNY investigations will be pure opinion on both our parts, so stop with the broken record nonsense.

    You flamed out colossally on Mueller, so are you planning to double down on SDNY?

    Here's a hint, when you can't make a rational reasoned response, don't make one at all.
     
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    What meandering garbage. Mueller cannot prosecute the President. That is a function purely up to congress if it decides to impeach.. That's why full disclosure is important. But let the Republicans try to edit the Mueller report or redact the hell out of it. The American people by vast majorities want full disclosure. This will be a battle in all media. The majority Dems in the House and the Dems in the Senate will not let this die. So let the Republicans become the media target for covering up for Trumpanzee. This will not die.
     
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    Witch Hunters Disgraced

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    Time to do something about the witch hunters....

    https://nypost.com/2019/03/23/how-to-end-our-national-nightmare-probe-hillary-clinton-again/

    How to end our national nightmare — probe Hillary Clinton again

    (Excerpt - Emphasis added for clarity)

    Was the initial decision to investigate Trump’s campaign an honest mistake by the Obama administration? Or was it an attempt to rig the election in favor of Clinton, and when that failed, overthrow a duly elected president?

    Those outstanding issues are as worthy of complete answers as those that Mueller investigated. In addition to knowing whether there was an improper relationship between a candidate and a foreign power, Americans also deserve to know what was going on inside their own government and whether it was simply incompetent or thoroughly corrupt, or some combination of the two.
     
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    Believe what you want to believe. Jared Kusner is still going to jail. Trump is still going to fire Mueller. Mueller will still indict Trump and Clinton will win the election. Some people never get tired of being wrong. Good luck with that.
     
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    And that again has nothing to do with what I said. Do you have the market cornered on red herring?
     
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    I don't believe any of what you claimed I believe. I was pointing out the unusual and suspicious circumstances of Trump's campaign manager committing crimes while campaign manager. You do agree that that's unusual and suspicious and begs the obvious question: if Trump's campaign manager was committing crimes, did Trump know about it?
     
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  21. LogNDog

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    He is specializing in red herring. I think it's an attempt to keep his hope alive.
     
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    LogNDog Well-Known Member

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    You base your beliefs in the same sources that gave us all the other crap that the press tried to spoon feed the public that turned out wrong. You even admitted that nobody has any information from any named and reliable sources that what you think happened even happened. Manafort's crimes didn't have anything to do with the campaign. Why would Trump know about it? No more indictments is what we know.
     
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    I base my belief that Manafort was committing crimes on Manafort's plea deal where he admitted to committing crimes.

    According to Mueller, Manafort was committing crimes WHILE campaign manager. He was also sending polling data to Russian-friendly people, which is unusual and highly suspicious, in and of itself.

    Because he's the guy who hired the campaign manager, and is supposed to oversee the campaign itself? Really now.

    You don't seem capable of discussing this on a nuanced level. You just retreat to talking points.
     
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    You just keep repeating the same stuff over and over. It gets boring because you don't have anything but anon sources to base your beliefs on. I asked you to link actual named reliable sources and you admitted that it doesn't exist. It is my belief that you just want to chase your own unicorn in the matter. Go for it. It's your right. I fully support your right to believe that you are right in spite of all the claims that have been made by the Democrats over the last three years that have been wrong.
     
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    Lock her up! Lol
     

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