Adam Schiff rejects reports that Mueller indictments are over, says special counsel could be called

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  1. jack4freedom

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    For his bashing of Hillary Clinton twice leading up to the very close election?
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    Lack of response noted again.
     
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    "Financial records obtained by The New York Times indicated that Manafort was in debt to pro-Russian interests by up to $17 million prior to joining Donald Trump’s presidential campaign."

    "Manafort’s resignation from the campaign was announced on August 19, 2016, after The Times reported that he'd received $12.7 million in undisclosed cash payments from Yanukovych’s pro-Russian party between 2007 and 2012."

    "Manafort and Donald Trump Jr., the president's eldest son, met with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya in June 2016. She reportedly was said to have damaging information on Trump’s campaign rival, Hillary Clinton, which was "part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump."

    "Along with his former business associate Rick Gates, Manafort was initially indicted in October 2017 on multiple counts that included: conspiracy against the U.S., conspiracy to launder money, false statements and failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/how-paul-manafort-is-connected-to-trump-russia-investigation

    "But it does depict Manafort as a longtime and unrepentant criminal who committed "bold" crimes, including under the spotlight of his role as campaign chairman and later while on bail, and who does not deserve any leniency."
    http://www.fox4news.com/politics/mueller-manafort-brazenly-violated-the-law-for-years
     
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    NO INDICTMENTS, the grand jury can issue an indictment it just cannot be presented and the President be arraigned. And the leftist "American people" and Congress can pound sand the Congress made the release of the report AGAINST THE LAW. Now the Democrats once again want to law violated. One of the purposed of the SC is to take the politics out of it and the decisions rest with him. The Democrats and the left have been saying for two years "Just wait, our man Mueller will get to the bottom of it and then Trump and his family will all be toast, Mueller is our MAN!!!" And now they want to throw him under the bus.
     
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    Trumpanzee Gangsters indicted so far and more to come.

    Some of the individuals indicted are Russian citizens who will probably never be extradited to the U.S. Russian President Vladimir Putin has pledged to protect them, stressing that his country never extradites its own citizens.

    But six of the indicted individuals are former Trump advisers, and most, with the exception of longtime Republican political consultant and Trump associate Roger Stone, have pleaded guilty.

    1 George Papadopoulos

    Trump’s young foreign policy adviser pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russians while he was based in London and working as Trump’s adviser. He was sentenced to 14 days in prison.

    Papadopoulos was working for a mysterious University of Malta professor named Joseph Mifsud who claimed that he could put the young Trump adviser in touch with Russians who had “dirt” on Trump’s political opponent Hilary Clinton. Papadopoulos later allegedly met with a woman who claimed to be Putin’s niece.

    Former Attorney General Jeff Sessions later admitted that Papadopoulos had offered to set up a meeting between Trump and Putin.

    2 Paul Manafort
    T rump’s campaign adviser pleaded guilty to conspiracy to act as an unregistered foreign agent for a pro-Russian political party in Ukraine and to witness tampering. He was also convicted on a wide range of financial crimes, including money laundering.

    Manafort had entered into a plea deal with Mueller’s team, but he was later accused of breaking the plea agreement by lying to investigators. In particular, Manafort was said to have lied about his contacts with the indicted Russian Konstantin Kilimnik. It was later revealed that Manafort had traveled to Madrid, Spain during Trump’s campaign for president and had shared polling data with Kilimnik, a Russian military veteran and suspected member of Russian intelligence agencies.

    3 Rick Gates
    A former Trump campaign aide and Paul Manafort’s right-hand man, Gates entered a plea deal with the special counsel’s team after he pleaded guilty to conspiracy and making false statements. Gates has not yet been sentenced because he continued to cooperate with the special counsel’s investigation.


    4 Michael Flynn

    Trump’s former national security adviser pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with former Russian ambassador Sergei Kislyak.

    5-13 Russian Nationals and 3 Russian companies Thirteen Russian nationals and three companies were indicted on conspiracy charges in February 2018. One of the companies was the Internet Research Agency, a St. Petersburg–based troll farm that was accredited with launching a widespread influence operation to impact the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. The other two companies are believed to have helped bankroll the troll farm.

    Yevgeniy Prigozhin, a man nicknamed Putin’s chef, was among those indicted. Prigozhin is the owner of Concord Catering and Concord Management and Consulting LLC, the two other indicted companies that allegedly paid for the Internet Research Agency.

    Mueller's team is now engaged in a court battle with Concord Management over whether it should hand over information to the company's lawyers about how it collected some of its evidence. The company argues that it cannot defend its client without the information, and, in court documents, noted that a "nude selfie" was included in the evidence compiled by the special counsel.

    The special counsel's team has argued that sharing the information with Concord's lawyers would put U.S. national security at risk, and alleged that the company would use the information to discredit the Russia investigation.


    6-12 Russian GRU officials Twelve members of Russian military intelligence services were identified by name in an indictment released in July 2018, in the lead up to President Trump’s meeting with Putin in Helsinki. “The GRU had multiple units, including Units 26165 and 74455, engaged in cyber operations that involved the staged releases of documents stolen through computer intrusions. These units conducted large-scale cyberoperations to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election,” the indictment reads.

    7 Richard Pinedo

    from California, pleaded guilty to identity theft. He entered into a plea agreement with the special counsel and agreed to cooperate. Experts believe he was indicted in connection with the 13 Russian nationals.

    “From approximately 2014 through November 2017, defendant Richard Pinedo did knowingly transfer, possess, and use, in and affecting interstate and foreign commerce, and without lawful authority, means of identification of other persons with the intent to commit, and to aid or abet, and in connection with, unlawful activity that constitutes a violation of Federal law, to wit, wire fraud, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1343,” the criminal complaint, a document that generally proceeds a plea agreement, reads.

    8 Alex van der Zwaan
    Van der Zwaan is a London-based lawyer who pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Ukrainians and with Gates. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail.

    9 Konstantin Kilimnik
    Kilimnik is a longtime associate of Manafort and Gates who helped the men build their political consulting business in Ukraine. Manafort allegedly called Kilimnik his “Russian brain.” Mueller’s team has alleged that Kilimnik is a member of Russian intelligence services. Kilimnik was indicted for witness tampering in relation to Manafort’s case.

    10 Michael Cohen
    Trump’s longtime lawyer and “fixer,” Cohen pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about the timeline of efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow during Trump’s campaign for president. Cohen had originally stated that efforts to launch the real estate project had ended in January 2016, but he later admitted that they had continued until June of that year.

    He cooperated with the special counsel’s office ahead of reporting to prison in May.

    11 Roger Stone
    The special counsel indicted longtime Republican political operative Stone in January. Stone has pleaded not guilty, but he has been accused of lying to the House Intelligence Committee about his attempts to contact WikiLeaks, the transparency organization that published emails stolen by Russian hackers from the Clinton campaign.


    Questions have been raised about whether Stone had insider knowledge about when WikiLeaks would publish the emails hacked from the Democratic National Committee and whether he was in touch with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange about the matter.

    SDNY has 3 Trump investigations. 1) FEC violation 2) tax fraud 3) insurance fraud ALL 3 based on Cohen's claims. Cohen repeated those claims when he testified before committee, and brought the docs that showed inflation / deflation of Trump property values for insurance / tax purposes. It's yourself who's ill informed on SDNY.

    The Trump Foundation has come under increased scrutiny after a series of revelations by the Washington Post that the Republican nominee may have improperly spent donations intended for charity.

    The Trump Foundation: what's known is shocking. We need to know more
    New York state officials are investigating whether President Donald Trump, his father, and his family committed tax fraud in a series of complex real estate dealings designed to avoid federal tax laws, which supposedly built the president’s fortune, multiple outlets report.

    The investigation comes in the wake of a sprawling New York Times investigation into the Trump family and how the president made his money.

    The article claims that Donald Trump made much of his money early in life from his father, Fred Trump, via a series of “tax dodges.”
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    Oh I responded.
    Republicans are the last people allowed to complain about not accepting the results of an investigation lol
     
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    Like you did with Comey right?
     
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    Stop with the delusional thinking. Your rants are unproductive and a waste of space. No one can seriously respond to this misguided trash.
     
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    I'd be all for it. Examples must be made.
     
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    In other words you have nothing of intellectual substance to add. I repeat

    NO INDICTMENTS, the grand jury can issue an indictment it just cannot be presented and the President be arraigned. And the leftist "American people" and Congress can pound sand the Congress made the release of the report AGAINST THE LAW. Now the Democrats once again want to law violated. One of the purposed of the SC is to take the politics out of it and the decisions rest with him. The Democrats and the left have been saying for two years "Just wait, our man Mueller will get to the bottom of it and then Trump and his family will all be toast, Mueller is our MAN!!!" Mueller is our MAN!!!" And now they want to throw him under the bus.
     
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    I believe the proper response to anyone getting a call from Schiff is hysteric laughter followed by a refusal to say anything...Claim the 5th publicly and cite process crimes as the reason and then say no more.
     
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    Comey threw the FBI under the bus on orders from Lynch.
     
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    A baseless claim. You think libs won’t try the same thing? We learned it from watching you!!
     
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    Refusing to accept the outcome of an invesigation is only for republicans?
     
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    Democrats are in need of some serious self reflection.

    I will leave this relevant quote here...

    "It is bad enough that so many people believe things without any evidence. What is worse is that some people have no conception of evidence and regard facts as just someone else's opinion." – Thomas Sowell
     
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    "Adam Schiff rejects reports that Mueller indictments are over, says special counsel could be called"

    if the report is not released in full, I agree

    let Mueller tell the people what he found under oath
     
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    . I've told you again and again the only way to remove a sitting President is through impeachment and Mueller can't do this. That's why congress needs full disclosure of Mueller's report to Congress. The rest of your rambling post is delusional.
     
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    All that can be released should be but 'ALL' as defined by the left will never be released. Just the grand Jury proceedings will never see the light of day regardless of the dems tantrums.
     
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    You will almost certainly get them.

    The FBI and the Justice Department clearly want to lengths to make sure that the public learned many of the more important things that they were aware of before the election, and emerged in the investigations.

    I am sure that these revalations are only the highlights. Which would explain why Trump is very uncharacteristically silent this weekend. For once, he may be listening to his attorneys.

    It is fairly obvious to most people why.

    Contrary to Trump's ignorant notions and those of his loyal right wing stooges, the Justice Department and the FBI do not exist to give cover to a corrupt elected official who probably betrayed his country in an effort to either get elected or do a real estate deal with the leaders of the country that is attacking the United States even now.

    Mueller's brief was to investigate the existance of the Russian influence campaign and discover whether or not the Trump campaign participated in it through conspiracy or collusion.

    What we know from the publicly available and confirmed information is that if the Trump campaign didn't actually collude, it was not for lack of trying or for lack of enthusiasm for the idea. That is not in doubt.

    We also have strong indications of how dependant Trump's business are on Russian oligarchs and their money laundering operations. We are certainly going to learn a lot more along those lines.

    These two things paint a picture of a Presidential candidate who is thoroughly compromised by Russian oligarchs close to the Russian dictator, and who is financially dependant on their good will.

    Add to this the long series of regular communications between Trump officials with Russian intelligence assets during the campaign, the previous connections between many of them and the Russians, and the way they all lied about it over and over again, does not make a case for exhonoration either.

    This is often the way it is with Presidential scandals of this magnitude. While specific indictable crimes are not necessarily identified by the Special Counsel, a clear picture of what happened and who did it does emerge.

    Which is what is beginning to happen here.

    Right now the right wing noise machine is busy falsely claiming that there have been numerous congressional investigations that came up with nothing. In fact, the only one that fits that description was Devin Nunes' premature whitewash, which no one took seriously then, or now.

    We have not seen the Mueller report yet.

    But all the players that Congress has not talked to yet, will get their chance in front of the television camera. And several others will get a chance to explain their previously discredited (false) testimony, and others will be asked to answer the questions that Nunes and Grassley made sure weren't asked the first time.

    Like I told another one of you Trumpsters, enjoy it while it lasts.

    I doubt that you have more than a few hours or days to do that.
     
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    There is only one definition of "all".
     
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    Not a Trumpster. God, before Donald Trump came onto the scene if nothing else there was mutual respect. You already knew I was an independent who wants an American Empire. Literally, my very first post was on that subject. If Donald Trump committed crimes, he should be prosecutable for those crimes. Just as I would be, you would be or anyone else.

    As of right now, as of this milisecond he is our President. Like him or not. In fact, you can feel free to despise everything that his character is made of. But there should be some sense of respect for the office. The office is untainted, regardless of who occupies it. Also, which others besides Cohen lied to Congress?(And even Cohen's new testimony already has shown to have lies in it.)

    A liar isn't going to tell you the truth, just because you ask them a second time. So either prosecute them for lying or don't.

    The only thing the resistance has accomplished is if you think Trump's a baby, Capitol Hill also needs a pacifier. That's all that's happened here. I'll gladly be a 'Trumpster', if being a Trumpster means I keep my dignity unlike the disgraces that we call politicians.

    Congress has a 13% approval rating, lower than Donald Trump. And those vestiges of justice called the Democratic Party?

    45%(somehow....) The Democrats know how to craft a message, but they don't know how to lead America. 2008-2016 is something I don't want to relive. Going back to the New Deal, every Democratic major initiative has turned out to be a failure in American social policy.
     
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    He can through the AG present the bill of indictment from the grand jury seeking removal from office so he can prosecute. He can list all the crimes he is alleging. AGAIN...........CONGRESS led by Democrats passed the law changing the office from an Independent Counsel to a Special Prosecutor DICTATING that the report would be confidential and not go to Congress, not go to the Press but to the AG who would then decide what if anything is released. Now because the Democrats are STILL tee'd off because they lost the election STILL tee'd off because the attempted coup has failed and now want their own law violated. Sorry you don't seem to grasp the LAW.
     
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    You mean the FBI investigation in the Hillary espionage scandal? I accepted the findings that she violated the law, it's the conspiracy not to charge her I disagree with and is being investigated by the IG. You know that led to over a dozen DOJ and FBI officials being fired or forced out.
     
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    *ring, ring, ring, ring, ring*
    Schiff: Hello?
    Other end of the phone: Hi!
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    He can't, the law says otherwise. He reports through the AG.
     
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