Afghanistan in Transition with US Departure.

Every politician who voted for the authorization to use force should have to take in a refugee, along with WAPO and NYT pundits who supported it.

 

Uh Oh:

 

adapt the refuge as member of family.

 

You just say that, when the outcome is that the white people are the most bloodthirsty ones. It was back then, it also applies to Afghanistan. Nobody made the US go nation building there by murdering those people if they objected and the people who just happen to be there. The lesser advanced feudal culture won of a higher advanced "private property" / capitalistic culture.

 

Yeah... why not care about who is the better leader.

So you basically agree that the pullout out of Afghanistan has been the policy of 3 presidents from both sides. All you got going is blaming the last one for pulling out the last couple of 1000's. It's just down right taking cheap shots for the mess created by the GOP.

 

The two cultures couldn't get along. The stronger culture always wins out...did always win out...they both won out...whites won out in the end...American Indians won out at the start.

The smart thing for the weaker culture would've been to capitulate to the stronger culture...Less heart ache and blood shed, ya know....But you have to 'spin' glory from the stupidity and bull headedness of American Indians who were losing the 'land' war with whites, IMO.

 

What does your post have to do with who's the better leader?

 

You must realize that military elites have fought 3 presidents on Afghanistan - BO, Trump and Biden...I believe the G.W. Bush Administration followed the ideals of military elites in Afghanistan.

Military elites refused to pull out of Afghanistan when the Commander in Chief (Trump) demanded troops be pulled out. Military elites also refused to make the Afghan Army self sufficient.

IMO, military elites don't want to pull out of Afghanistan, right now.

The American people by a very wide margin want American troops pulled out of Afghanistan.

 

No, the terrorists started it.

Preventing Afghanistan based terrorist attacks in the U.S.

The problem is no that we are evacuating. The problem is how we are evacuating.

There were no Afganistan based terrorist attacks on the U.S. for 20 years.

 

Yes... The feudal Afghan culture is the stronger culture.
What an immense load of crap are you selling. Nobody is buying this.

You're argument makes zero sense. All we got going is that the white population simply was far more brutal.

 

Military elites is just an other word for "deep state".
I'm not the tin foiled cap loving kind.

 

And why is that:

 

Biden aims to hold to Aug. 31 to pull U.S. from Afghanistan, asks Pentagon for contingency plan if deadline is missed

President Biden, who held a virtual meeting with G-7 leaders Tuesday morning, has faced pressure from allies to extend the deadline. But as evacuations of Americans and others from Kabul airport ramp up, the president is seeking to adhere to the original timetable, according to a senior Biden administration official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private planning. Biden had suggested that the U.S. might extend its stay, though the Taliban had rejected that idea.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...9.lli55EjpnbfyZd1sD9DxX431zPoWShhyj2pF29d4MFs

 

I have relatives in Alabama who have stories passed down from generations of Creek Indians massacring thousands of whites in Alabama in the 19th century.
Jimmy Carter wrote a book which included the massacring of thousands of whites (don't know of the tribes of Indians involved) in Georgia.

 

Yes, you are the tin foil hat kinda person. For example, you think Trump is the ultimate corrupt politician when, in fact, Trump fought the corrupt politician (who is all around us)

 

Apparently you are comfortable to have the taliban determine U.S. policy? Think about the problems with such a position. The evacuation has been an unmitigated disaster. Don't even try to defend it.

 

You are making an erroneous assumption. It has nothing to do with being "comfortable" re: this disaster. The fact remains..........that the Taliban managed to take control of the country in a rapid manner that caught a lot of people by surprise. That should not have happened. Why wasn't that prevented?? They took control of that nation........in a swift and decisive manner. We just have to deal with it...............and get out of that third world hell hole. The only leverage we have now is that they want recognition on the world stage................We don't have to give it to them............unless they meet certain requirements. The whole nation building exercise was foolish from the start. It is their nation........and they call the shots.Whether we like it or not.
Nasty business all around.

 

The Trump/Taliban deal gave all the cards to the Taliban

 

They need to amend the oath of office to include never to negotiate with terrorists.

 

They call the shots because we allow them to.

 

Not necessarily. Sometimes you have to compromise with those that you would call terrorists. I would say that the Taliban are not terrorists towards the US, they are terrorists towards the general Afghan population. What happened here was that the Taliban got everything that they could have wished for out of the Trump/Taliban deal at no cost to them

 

Look At The BRIGHT Side

We may witness a "hot" war
between ISIS and the Taliban.
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Too bad for all those Afghani villagers.


Moi
Neo Isolationist

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It's time we listened to some words of wisdom:

"You cannot impose political standards of behavior on other countries and people while ignoring their special nature which includes their ethnic and religious structure and historical traditions." - Vladimir Putin

 

I watched C-Span and an Afghan was on. He was a professor at the American University in Kabul, and said he was stopped by the Taliban. They wanted to check to see if the car was stolen.

He said they were surprised when he spoke to them in the Afghan language, since he was dressed in Western clothes. He didn't have any problems because as an Afghan he knew how they think and feel - so he has no plans to leave.

 

I'm going to disagree with you. You forget that the Taliban are Afghans and think like Afghans - which means they are not terrorists to the majority of the Afghan people. Had we not tried to impose our extremist liberal views on them, maybe their reaction would not have been so harsh, and today there wouldn't be a Taliban - but rather a more moderate government.