African Americans are very racist?

So then you acknowledge the possibility that it's because black people are racist. You could be a good fella and just come out and be honest about it instead of beating around the bush and doing everything in your power to deny I made a valid point.

Sigh. This is why it's so hard to talk sense into some people. They absolutely refuse to believe anything that's contrary to their beliefs.

Truth about what. She came here as an outsider, made an observation, and gave her opinion.

She has a fresh perspective on american society. And I personally hold her opinion on the country in much higher regard than you as a result of this fact.

No. The first thing I noticed is that you made the inaccurate assumption that by "us" I meant storm fronters.

Good grief dujac...you're impossible and I'm highly tempted to put you on my ignore list because I suspect you're a troll.

No where in the voter ID bill does it say "Blacks cannot vote." Show me where in that law it says "Blacks cannot vote."

You accused me of being a stormfronter. Are you saying that stormfronters aren't racist?

Now I want you to respond to this post in a logical fashion. I don't want to read a bunch of nonsensical word games and side stepping. If you do it again, I'm writing you off as a troll and burying you on my ignore list.

 

Oh I see. We have a conspiracy theory master here!

Profiling? If blacks commit most crimes then of course the police will target them. Don't want to be profile? Stop committing crimes, and develop nice neighborhoods.

I am from Syria, Arab Muslim. I myself agree that most terrorists are Muslims and the only large organized terror groups are Muslim ones. So who do you think CIA or Russian intelligence should target? Muslim, Middle Eastern people. Or should they look carefully at some blonde couple from Norway and Sweden? Of course they are going to profile Muslims and South East Asians, and Arabs. I am not offended!

Drugs shipped in? Conspiracy theory? Only shipped into black areas right? Maybe it's a government conspiracy to undermine the black community! What bs. Blaming others for your own problems. 99.9% drugs come from the global south, not exactly "white areas".

There are some Muslims in general who blame the Jews for everything. Every earthquake is Jews fault. All killings are Jews fault. All drugs are Jews fault. 9/11 attacks Jews fault Poverty is Jews fault. There were shark attacks in Egypt resorts a few years ago. Some Egyptians claimed the sharks were Jewish developed agents intent on destroying Egypt tourism industry and undermine Egypt.

You remind me of those idiot conspiracy theorists.

 

So in other words you don't really want to discuss anything? Noted and you are dismissed.

 

He's doing the same garbage with me.

If he comes back at me with another non sense post I'm putting the guy on my ignore list. I'm not going to waste my time with trolls who can't carry a debate.

 

I tried my best. I really want to know why he believes a law that requires people to prove who they are to obtain a state ID is racist. I mean I'm sure his answer is b/c it affects mostly blacks to which I would have responded that it's not the laws fault that mostly blacks can't comply.

That would be like me claiming that the law requiring hunters licenses is racist towards whites because mostly whites hunt. LOL

Some people are just baffled by logic.

 

black people were enslaved here for centuries, white's were not

you sound like you don't have much experience

she has misinformation and propaganda kind of like you do

what a coincidence

asking a question about something isn't the same as assuming something's true

you still haven't answered

who did you mean when you said, "us"?

that's got to be one of the dumbest comments around

ever heard of 'unintended consequences'? well voter id isn't that

the gop has very certain consequences in mind regarding voting requirements

[video=youtube;EuOT1bRYdK8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuOT1bRYdK8[/video]

no, you just don't seem to understand what accuse means

what a joke

 

If you're not a troll, you're a very good imitation of one. You don't answer a single question asked of you. Not one, you simply scream louder "I'm right *******mit"

You've been asked to show that voter Id laws are racist, you have failed to do, you simply stating over and over that they are racist neither makes them racist nor proves to us that they are.

 

WHY does everyone think OJ got away with it? like i said before: they keep saying he got away with murder but in reality when the trial was over he was arrested again for something totally different but the jury was only reminded of his wife's murder. so the jury based that trial on their emotions! OJ really never got away with it in a sense!

 

He didn't answer any of my questions and all of his points are not even remotely logical sounding.

Look at this part:

He seems to think that black people are incapable of being racist because they were enslaved...

How illogical and close minded can you be?

This guy is going on my ignore list because he's clearly a troll.

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Alright well I gave you a fair shot to respond in a logical fashion and you failed to do that.

You're a troll and you're going on my ignore list. I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone who has the intellect of a ten year old and the debating skills of a chimpanzee.

 

you're lies are easily refuted


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now, show me what question of yours you think i didn't answer

really, why do you make up things that are so easily refuted?

i've posted an abundance of evidence on how voter id laws are racist and explained it long ago

your responses show quite clearly that you just ignore it, so here it is again

voter id excludes some classes of citizens over race, color, religion, sex, national origin, age & etc

now, here is an article that supports what i said and further explains exactly how voter id laws are discriminatory


The Voter-Fraud Myth: What Racist Voter ID Laws Are Really About

Are Voter ID laws racist? It’s a question that has touched a nerve in many of our readers. Here is the best response we’ve received to our coverage on this controversial topic:

I am of an age that recalls a significant lack of access to certain institutions, like hospitals, for a mother to deliver her child because of the color of her skin or the lack of means in her wallet. This means there are millions of seniors over the age of 60 still living in or near their place of birth who do not have a birth certificate. And don’t think that these people needed to present a birth certificate to register for school, apply for a job or enlist in the military. I can assure you none of these institutions asked for it.

I also know that there are thousands of young to middle-aged people who are earning low to moderate incomes who never obtained a copy of their birth certificates because no one ever asked for it before, and even if they were asked, they had to weigh the expense to obtain one against their next meal, bus ride or rent payment. These people would have to scrounge for the extra money to purchase a copy of their birth certificate for what? The right to vote every two or four years in the nation that they were born in, paid taxes to and sacrificed their lives for during wars.

I have traveled enough in the United States to know that in many regions of our country, people do not drive because they do not own a car or don’t need one because they rely on public transportation or their feet to walk to where they need to go. These same people never thought to get an ID from the DMV because where they live, people know one another.

There is an old saying: “Walk a mile in someone else’s shoes.” Those of you who have ID and think that it is sooooo easy to get one need to open your eyes, really listen with your ears and walk away from your comfort zone to the outer rim. Then tell me what these new voter ID requirements are really all about.

There is no evidence of outcome-changing voter fraud in America. What there is evidence of is narrow-minded, life-inexperienced people who can’t think for themselves in the midst of manufactured clouds of fear and mindless screeching of impending doom by callous extremists. The need for voter IDs in the United States is baseless, has no merit and is extremely cruel in its intent. Just because people do not live their lives like you does not mean that they are less human, less deserving of the rights of all citizens, and without need for each of us to stand firm for all of us to fully participate in the processes that shape this nation.

Let’s move on to what really matters: saving this country for everyone who is here. We cannot afford to waste one human life or to trample one person’s rights so that a narrow but vocal few can scream fire while they are in the middle of a theater.

http://www.diversityinc.com/diversity-and-inclusion/how-to-end-racist-voter-id-laws-what-these-new-requirements-are-really-about/

 

There are systems in place to help people get the paperwork required to get ID if they don't have it. The fact that some people are too lazy and or stupid to follow the procedures does NOT make the procedures themselves racists. It just makes those who won't do the work lazy.

You're right about one thing, I'm INSISTING that these people get out of "their comfort zone" if they want to vote. Who gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) if you call it racist, it is not. a white person who is unwilling to do the work required to obtain an ID would be equally penalized. Is that true or false? A black man who obtains his ID would equally be able to vote. Is that true or false?

It really is that simple. I'm sick of people like you turning EVERYTHING into something racist.

 

Didnt obama just give Kenya 53 million to support their voter ID law?

 

what i posted completely refuted your lie

now, show me what question of yours you think i didn't answer

i've already refuted your ridiculous 'lazy' argument

show me where i did that

illegal discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, national origin, age should not be tolerated

so your questions are false ones, that's the answer, 'false' and it's no wonder you guys lost so miserably

now the gop is really having to scramble to suppress minority voting rights

certainly i did, you're view is just too narrow to understand historical context or the experiences of minorities

your conclusion is what's illogical

you were obviously unable to refute the evidence i posted

yes, run away from the facts i posted, your delusional responses won't be missed

you're projecting you own situation

 

Pot calling the kettle black?

 

explain and backup your argument.

if you can.

 

The key word there is "were."

Blacks are not enslaved now and slavery is no excuse for their current failure to succeed in our 21st Century society.

 

as was said many times earlier

we're still suffering the effects of slavery and there's unquestionably racial disparity in this country

 

kinda like running a race where your legs are tied together, then on the last lap they untie you and expect you to finish with the rest of the pack?

 

I have seen your posts, and you have attacked people who are new to this country for giving their observations when their observations appear to be left-wing leaning.

 

You forgot to mention the thirteen years between the two incidents.

 

Angela Corey prosecuted both cases. She said Alexander was the aggressor, not the victim. Martin was also the aggressor.

You don't understand self defense laws and that small details can change who the victim/aggressor is very quickly. This is your problem.

 

yes he did, but those were thirteen difficult years in which he was systematically stripped of assets, trophies and etc

she didn't injure or kill anyone

yet she got a stronger sentence than many killers get

 

I'm not entirely sure I would call what he was living on THAT difficult.

I wish my finances were as difficult as his.

 

Didn't think you could. Thanks for staying predictable. Come back when you can actually back up your claims next time.

 

I think liberals use a paint wheel or color swatch to make that determination.