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Air quality in US dramatically worse than in prior years, says new 'State of the Air' report

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    So what, the trend is quite apparent, it there was some huge jump in 2018 then prove it

    "The 21st annual "State of the Air" report analyzed data from 2016, 2017 and 2018 -- three of the five hottest years in recorded history in the world, the report said."

    The OP study used 2016 and 2017.
     
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    The American Lung Association is making the claim...
    I tend to believe them over the Trump EPA, even if they didn't produce a chart...
    You were unable to refute anything with your old chart.

    That's where we all stand...
     
    Egoboy, Apr 23, 2020
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  3. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    You're citing their claim, you are free to withdraw that support. :popcorn:

    And how lame, now you claim that everyone at the EPA got some order from Trump to misrepresent the figures.........just lame. The trend BY FAR predates Trump.
     
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  4. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh and here

    upload_2020-4-23_18-39-10.png

    I'm missing the DRAMATIC INCREASE and DRAMATICALLY WORSE than prior years and seeing an uptick in manufacturing and the economy and people having more money to travel and drive their cars and fly places.
     
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    So you do know how trends work...
    Now do the economy :popcorn:
     
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  6. Bluesguy

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    Of course I do and lack of rebuttal noted. Air quality is NOT dramatically worse.
     
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    No, not dramatically worse but even your graph shows a few upticks from 2016 through 2018 (since you can now miraculously understand trends I am sure they are apparent to you), I am curious what 2018 through 2020 looks like? Several of the trends seem to be reversing slightly...
     
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  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Simple enough answer, The EPA has been run by a lying POS since Trump appointed him, just like his whole administration.
     
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    The OP

    ""The air quality in the United States is dramatically declining............" Total BS.
     
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    ROFLMAO that REALLY the best you got? The entire EPA is now made up of liars because you don't like the facts. Pitiful. Yes simple on the facts and reason.
     
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    Can you admit they are increasing in some areas?
     
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  12. Bluesguy

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    Because of Trump? No. And throughout the decline there have been such minor blips especially when the economy is running full out. Can you admit that?
     
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    Na, leave trump out of it. I know he can do no wrong.
    Can you admit they are increasing in some areas?

    I don’t conciser the economy running “full out” when we are taking on massive debt and manipulating financial markets. I didn’t during Bush or Obama — I am not about to start now. So no, the economy was growing at an acceptable rate had we not been adding hundreds of billions to the debt — adding the debt it becomes unacceptable.
     
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    But, hear me out if it were the other way around your opinion would be opposite.
     
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    It could be the same people in charge because Trump didn’t touch them and TDS sufferers would magically mistrust them.
     
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    The political paradox.
     
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    Relaxing regulation, promoting oil, strongly disparaging clean energy (even though it accounts for allmost all our growth in energy), attacking car mileage standards that CA wants ...

    How the heck many do you need??
     
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    Numerous executive branch positions that require Senate confirmation have "acting" directors.

    Look what happened to the head of the group working on a COVID19 vaccine for simply commenting on Trump's nonscientific and dangerous medical sales job.
     
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    RodB said: ↑
    The Paris Climate Accord has nor had any affect on air quality in the United States
    Is this somehow meant to try to refute what I said???
     
    RodB, Apr 24, 2020
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    Liberals, always trying to muddy the waters.

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    Trump relaxed many regulations, most of which had no connection with air or water quality, to reign in the draconian "law unto themselves" that regulatory agencies had become.

    All of your examples tie to CO2 emissions that have nothing -- as in nada, zilch, zero -- to do with air quality. Do you understand that if all the CO2 was removed from the atmosphere there would be no life, plant or animal, on the earth?
     
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    They have to make the waters muddy so people cannot see what they are really doing.
     
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    Minor blips within historical trends are you going to admit there is nothing DRAMATICAL worse than previous years as the OP claimed?
     
    Bluesguy, Apr 24, 2020
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    That was not my question at all... Read the original quote from me.... Is the EPA following the Clean Air Act yes or no?

    Roll backs to the Clean Air Act?... List them
     
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    Obama Loosened The Lid!
     
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