ALERT: The Anonymous Group - Anarchist Criminals

Traditional dems were Americans first and partisans second...today it is the reverse. We went from 'ask not what your country can do for you. ask what you can do for your country' to simply 'gimme'.

 

In what way are Republicans not also partisan first, Americans second? The idea that this has not always been the case is nothing more than glorification of the past. Past Americans were no more nationalistic than present day Americans, and factional political divides have always taken front stage compared to cooperation and common national identity.

 

I dont need a job I am self employed.
The above is not vague it is specific.

Which bit is not based in reality? Capitalism equates to inequality by DEFINITION.

Inequality leads to crime, see post 141 for research published in the British Society of Criminology.

too broad, too much to comment on. I never said anything about not having any structure, I favour a democratically controlled, publicly owned, planned economy.

google idealism, you clearly have no idea what it means.

wtf are you rambling on about? England was the first capitalist country ffs. They had a bourgeois revolution in 1640. Holland had one about the same time, then France. Germany was late. America didnt need one as such but it had one sort of, in two parts. The whole of Europe is capitalist. There were no socialist or Marxist countries, only Stalinist ones in the Eastern Block, and they were supposed to be capitalist (except Russia), but capitalism failed there.

God knows why a Marxist would join the Democrats.

ludicrous claim

 

Except when it's sanctioned by the state.

And what about the minority?

 

Ridiculous. Anarchy doesn't imply without law, it implies without rulers. There would be no government, whether monarchy or republic or other variety, that has a legal monopoly on the use of force. Law system have arisen, been utilized, and enforced without governments in the past. The United States Uniform Commercial Code is based on the Lex Mercatoria, a system of laws created and enforced by medieval Italian traders in the Mediterranean because there was no consistency of law among the myriad Italian city-states.

 

And how will laws be enforced without rulers? Unless everyone enforce the laws themselves it can never happen. The moment someone establishes a governing body, it is no longer anarchy.

 

If that were really true government would never work.

 

Are you an anarchist to know that?
You ever heard of kropotkin or Proudhon?
You a part of an anarchist group?



Because anarchists stand for councils and power to the councils.

 

There's no reason there can't be a governing body. It's that the governing body doesn't have a legal monopoly on the use of force. As soon as you have rulers, you have totalitarianism as the rulers have the right to do whatever they want to you and you have no rights beyond what they allow you.

 

I don't have to be part of an anarchist group to know that their vision is completely ill thought out.

Collective thinking doesn't leave room for individual wants and needs.

 

Then who is going to force you to do anything you don't want to do? No one.

The only way archaism can actually work is under a democracy, when the many enforce their views on few.

 

Well since I am an anarchist I meet with fellow comrades I can say that you know nothing of what I stand for.


Anarchism is not do whatever the (*)(*)(*)(*) you want, is the no hierarchy everyone deciding trough direct democracy what to do.

 

Don't care. I just know that your plans are half baked.

And who is going to stop someone from doing whatever the (*)(*)(*)(*) they want when and where they decide to do it?

 

The councils would regulate society.


Maybe you should read the conquest of bread inbetween the twilights.

 

No, it is NOT. We don't punish success here, nor should we. This is about envy.

 

And how will they "regulate" society without force?

And who appoints these "councils" and why since there aren't suppose to be any rulers?

 

I believe that Day and Age is within 3,000yrs... It isn't today for sure but, when Humans advance further enough there won't be a need for a controlling body. That is of course if Humans advance towards that Goal and don't go down the route of tyranny once more.

 

Why do you need force?


everyone is part of the council you dont need to apoint everyone.

Look at ancient greece.

 

Only the ones committing crimes. Some have been arrested.

Good thing you're not in charge of national security. It IS serious. Cyber security is VERY serious. I've fixed you a cup of coffee. It's at the kids' table.

Yeah. Whoop-dee-doo.

You tell me. You know everything.

 

And that's not govt.?

 

You don't. The point is that anarchism has no way of making sure people will stop doing bad things without the absolute use of force.

At least in Capitalism you have an economic equilibrium and you have the Rule of Law. It's not suppose to stop crime. It's a recognition that people will commit crime regardless of what form of Government or Economic system and a sound policy has to be constructed around this basis.

I have yet to hear an actual sound policy from any anarchist.

That is no different from a democracy. In fact, that pretty much is a democracy.

 

No it's about greed. No individual needs $1.2 billion dollars, an amount that is used for material excess. At the same time, others are denied health care, others are denied the opportunity to receive a good education, because they don't have enough money. It's not punishing success, it is capping excess. Any society where the above conditions exist is one that lacks compassion. If the GOP really was the Jesus loving nation it claimed to be, it would see that clearly.

 

That's because nobody "needs" anything.

 

Uh, they most certainly do, if they are going to reach an acceptable standard of living. They need enough to eat, a health care system that won't let them die if they don't have enough money, they need an education system that rewards academic success and not material wealth, they need peace and security and a government that actually cares about their well being.

 

Real anarchists want to overthrow hierarchies and these corrupt governments, we are not talking on anarkids that wear (A) because its cool.