ALERT: The Anonymous Group - Anarchist Criminals

Crimes occur under capitalism, enormous amounts of crime. therefore capitalism fails?

 

That's a big "if". Define "acceptable".

 

Yeah, because that's normally what happens, isn't it? No, it isn't. Stop hiding under your little rock and experience reality for a change.

 

Enormous amounts of crime happens everywhere. In fact, the biggest crimes of them all happen where there is no Private Property Rights or Rule of Law which coincides with Capitalism.

For example, you have genocide and civil unrest in Africa. You have honor killings in the Middle East. You have human trafficking in parts of Russia, Africa the Middle East and Western Europe.

 

Ok, here are the straight up, no spin facts.

The crime rate in the USSR is hard to measure because they didn't publish crime rate statistics. It is generally agreed that there were very heavy amounts of corruption, but the crime rate was lower than the US because there was a much larger police force (KGB ).

Crimes occur under communism and socialism, enormous amounts of crime. therefore communism fails?

 

From your post I see there is no crime in US.

Even socialist european sissies have lower crime rates than capitalist US.

 

And of course there can be no other reason than capitalism, can there? Not the fact that we don't live in a homogenous society like most European countries who have a nation devoted to each stinking ethnic group.

 

Is the last level of democracy Anarchism is the pure democracy. The power in the hands of the people. Anarchism is democracy.

What we have today is not democracy. Is something between democracy and dictatorship, but closer to dictatorship than democracy.

 

You clearly never been to europe.
Never saw the stinking ethnic groups.

 

I see plenty from your posts too. None of it good.
They are belligerent, trolling and insulting, oftentimes. Frankly I don't have any respect for them because of the demeanor in which they're presented.

 

I didn't say there wasn't any crime. I said places where the most unforgivable crimes are allowed to occur happen only in places in with no Private Property Rights or Rule of Law. When was the last time a Genocide happened in the US? When have there ever been sanctioned honor killings? Sure, the US has human trafficking but not to the extent of any of the places I have named. Because the US has Private Property Rights and rule of Law.

Yeah sure crime per capita is lower than the US. Then again, how much crime can possibly occur in a country which isn't even the size of an American state or city of that matter. Although England has a lot more crime than the US. Especially since they have banned Private ownership of firearms. Crime more than tripled when that happened, as it happens criminals do not obey the law.

 

You cant prove facts wrong.

"socialized europe" has less crime than good ol' 'merican capitalism and that is a fact.

 

The Russians? Russia. The Czechs? Czech Republic. The Germans? Germany. The Serbians? Serbia. Meanwhile Americans have large, notable amounts of Europeans of all descents, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, you name it we have it.

Compare that to Europe.
Germany: German 91.5%, Turkish 2.4%, Italian 0.7%, Greek 0.4%, Polish 0.4%, other 4.6%
United Kingdom: English 83.6%, Scottish 8.6%, Welsh 4.9%; Northern Irish 2.9%, black 2%, Indian 1.8%, Pakistani 1.3%, mixed 1.2%, other 1.6%
Source 1


White alone
(of which 26.7 million are White Hispanic and Latino Americans, see table below.
Excluding these, this category comprises 63.7% or 196.8 million) 223,553,265 72.4%
Black or African American alone 38,929,319 12.6%
Some other race alone
(Mestizo, Mulatto...) 19,107,368 6.2%
Asian alone 14,674,252 4.8%
Two or more races 9,009,073 2.9%
American Indian or Alaska Native alone 2,932,248 0.9%
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander alone 540,013 0.2%
Source 2
Look at those numbers. The numbers not in bold are the ethnicities that are from other countries. In the US we have a mostly white population but even then the white population varies to a great extent.

My point? We have racial tensions that simply aren't there in Europe. I'm sure they are there in Europe, just not to the extent here. This has historically caused crime.



Or perhaps you're just rolling with the "stinking ethnic groups" comment.

 

All dictatorships occur because of democracy. Ask the Germans about Hitler on your free time.

And we don't have a democracy, we have a Republic. You can keep your democracy in Europe where it fails the most.

 

True. You haven't explained the correlation between capitalism and high crime rates yet, or at least you haven't presented it with facts.

 

World is capitalist.
World has crime.
There is crime in capitalist therefore there would be crime in anarchy argument is invalid.

 

You haven't proven anything to me. All you have is words.

Europe doesn't have out of control Black youth to deal with like we do either. Ours have been taught by their peers to have a self-defeating chip on their shoulder and that "school ain't cool" - perpetuating their plight.

What you do have is a mind-set of feudalism to socialism or some form of totalitarianism. That's it and that's all. No inherent spirit of Liberty. That is uniquely American and we're trying to hold on to it, despite our first POTUS with a Marxist bent. Our dem party has become socialist outright and the hard left is America is one form of totalitarianism or another.

The "blue dog" democrats are the only ones left with any sense and they're outnumbered in their own party.

 

Crime has been around for far longer than Capitalism.

Fail.

 

Using that logic...

World has pandas.
World has crime.
There is crime in a panda infested world, therefore there would be crime in panda free world is invalid.

World has potato chips in cellulose bags.
World has monkeys.
There are potato chip bags, therefore the whole argument that there would be potato chips in a monkey-less world argument is invalid.


I love arguing with you. You make no sense whatsoever. You just fling poop at the wall and hope it sticks.

 

So the concept of liberty is american, I lol at that.
Nevermind ancient greece and its philosophers.

I was only using your logic that there would be crime in anarchy.

 

There would be crime under anarchy. To say other wise is foolish.

The difference between Capitalist and Anarchist is that Capitalist don't try to pretend Capitalism lowers crime. Anarchist live in an idealism fantasy world who believe that it will all of a sudden disappear simply because "everyone would do their part." Well what if someone doesn't want to do their part? What if people want to do for themselves?

Capitalism is an acknowledgement that people will go out of their way to fulfill their own wants and desires. Even if it means committing crimes.

Anarchism doesn't consider use a factor which is why anarchism will never last. A democracy will just lead to a dictator like all democracies do.

 

Anarchists like me believe that if we solve reasons that lead people to commit crime it would drop.
Instead of the believe of capitalism that if we threaten with jail crime will drop.

 

They are long dead and modern Greece is the worst of the worst of countries sinking into the debt caused by socialism. Puh-leese.
America is unique in its practice of and veracity for Liberty in the world. YES.
Our biggest problem is statists of varying kinds trying to subvert it.

 

LOL. I am laughing. Please. Don't say nonsense.

Hitler made a coup d'etat. No dicatatorship occur because of democracy.

And remember this. USA is not a democracy neither a Republic. Is a plutocracy or a dictatorship with one party, divided in two factions called Republicans and Democrats.

But yeah, conservative follow in your illusion that you have freedom and other nonsense that you say.

Democracy, real democracy never will derive in fascism. Because people know well how work the things and are well educated.

While in these no-democracies people are poor educated, and mainly in free-thinking.

 

LOL. Yeah, the liberty of USA I laugh at it. I have to start to mention their laws of freedom about immigration, for example. Yeah, a free country, where ones are more than others, yeah. Nice idea of liberty.

Please, if you believe that bull(*)(*)(*)(*) good for you. But the rest, we don't believe that propaganda that with a few seconds of research you can throw it down. For example the laws anti-asiatic people of USA. Yeah that is liberty.

Or the discrimination that suffers people only for their orientation, for example in the army. Yeah that is liberty.

A country that uses the represion against peaceful demonstrations. Yeah great concept of liberty and freedom.