All 12 US- cruise 'new' and 'smart' missiles were intercepetd by 30 years old Syriand defence system

My my your mean they can fake a few seconds of video!!!

 

What media is that the Russian media?

Oh as they only fired 40 rockets they must had brought down the others with spitballs.

 

No its german media. The "Welt" labels this strike a demonstration of weakness

 

You know who ever came up with such silly numbers for the kill ratio for the attacking cruise missiles need to go back to propaganda school for retraining on how far you can go from the truth before you look insane and no longer had even a hint of credibility.

 

You have not even seen the vidio(s) .. you are just regurgitation the Establishment narrative.

You don't actually believe the Establishment pundits that represent the military do you ? I mean seriously .. these guys are habitual liars and promoters of false narrative.

 

At the rate of missile attack naysaying surpassing a multitude of immaculate drug conceptions from KKK churchstate cops in those Catholic Church drug invasions with apparently no evidence since the 1950's, doubt there's enough whitewashing to satisfy those seeking survival of the fittest fascists king of the hill as too dang lily brilliant white status game.

 

I don't see any credible source saying over 70+ missiles shot down...other than Kremlin saying "trust us", wink, wink.

 

Sounds so much like mid 1970's KKK churchstate cops where 24 US Constitutions purchased at the National Archives, which were in all probability stolen & burned with assertations shot down with so many immaculate drug conceptions under color of law.......

 

To his defense, Russian ministry of defense really does claim it intercepted 71.
http://eng.mil.ru/en/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12171300@egNews

Russia proved many times that it’s not trustworthy, so I take whatever they say with a grain of salt.

 

At least a few Tomahawk cruise missiles were destroyed over Syria before reaching their intended targets. But the defense minister's claim that all 12 cruise missiles were intercepted may be an exaggeration.

 

Tamahawks are not precision guided missiles, so there is no way to really tell if it hit the intended target. The lack of pictures of intercepted missiles lead me to believe that absolute majority of them reached their targets. At the same time, I do think some were intercepted.

 

Here's a google translation from the Russian report:

– First published … April 14, 2018 –


The strikes were directed at the military airports, the scientific center and the manufacturing sites. According to the data, there are no casualties between civilians and military personnel.

103 rockets were fired at these Tomahawk and JB 38 sites and British warplanes fired eight SCALP & JEI

The Syrian air defenses dropped 71 missiles and used the following systems to drop them:
S-125, S-200, Bock, Kfadrat, Usa


Four rockets were fired at the international airport, all of which were dropped.
Twelve rockets were fired at Al-Dameer Airport, all of which were dropped.

18 rockets were fired at Bli airport and all were dropped.

12 rockets were fired at al-Shaerat airport.

9 rockets were fired at the unmanned Mezze airport, 5 of which were dropped.

16 rockets were fired at Homs, 13 of which were dropped. There were no significant losses to these two aircraft and were limited to material.

30 missiles were fired at the residential areas of Barzeh and Jirmana on facilities that the aggression states claimed had research centers and chemical weapons production plants. Seven of these rockets were dropped and the targeted places of equipment and persons were vacated for a long time.

We confirm that there are no weapons centers or factories
No rockets were fired into the Russian air defenses at the Hameimim and Tartous …
Our base was established in Hameim and Tartous in the state of alert and war and our warplane is flying in the Syrian airspace.

The Russian Ministry of Defense believes that this British-American aggression, which coincided with the arrival of the experts of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons to verify what happened in Duma, aims to disrupt the work of this committee and prevent it from uncovering the truth.

On the other hand, it is a response to the successes achieved by the Syrian Arab Army in eradicating savage Tkfiri terrorism The armed man supported by these two countries … The general situation in Damascus is calm and you can be sure through our screens that convey the picture directly from there.

 

You couldn’t just provide a link to English version of Russian ministry of defense website?

/facepalm

 

You throw tons of flak and such at the incoming missiles some will work that is why you fire enough to get most through to your targets, we could have fired a lot more AT the AA defense units first then fired at the targets but it wasn't needed.

 

Here's an interesting video - and laughable as well since the Ambassador and General are contradicting one another. It seems the ambassador is right, and Russia was told what targets would be hit. This would account for the Syrians knocking down so many missiles..

 

Who care what the Russians are saying as they are a nation that had been taken over by liars and they are willing to share this lying with the rest of the world by way of the internet and an army of trolls.

 

Why would anyone buy into such nonsense at all.

Come on Russian internet trolls are not all that good.

 

Yes I should take logic and common sense and the fact that Russia had become a nation of lairs and disregard all of the above for what reason?

Sorry troll internet propaganda to have any chance of being believe by anyone need to at least approach something that is possible and a very large number of cruise missiles being shot down by Russians junk hardware being run by poorly train third worlders does not approach the possible.

Suggest that the Russian trolls, whoever they might be ,should send a memo to their bosses that they should stop overdoing the nonsense as once more it ruin any chance that anyone will likely given them any credit.

 

You got to be kidding me they are capable of being within a few feet of their target an are the most long range precision weapon produce up to this point in history.

Next why would you give the claim that any cruise missiles was shot down using Russian junk being run by poorly train third worlders any credit?

 

[QUOTE="Mac-7, post: 1068946526, member: 53844"]We have been threatend by russia since 1946

Putin in practicing geo politics for the advantage of the russians

Hopefully he is not willing to wage nuclear war over syria, iran or north korea

But he does want the former glory and respect given to the old soviet union[/QUOTE]

Have you really? Well after so many 'threats' you ought to find it easy to give me a link which proves one of them? Do you remember that word - 'proves', derived from the noun 'proof'?

 

So that gives you the right to exert you will on every country on the planet then?? Do you know what that amounts to? I'll tell you in two words - dictatorship and fascism. How does that make you feel? Oh, and as you're always so critical of dictators then it makes you a hypocrite too? Agree or not?

 

Sorry we are the good guys at least for the most part and compare to say the former USSR or the current very sick Russia with a GNP equal to a very small western nation but strangely .with a lot of billionaires.

 

Like there aren't a lot of billionaires in your country too? What are you saying exactly - that it's okay for you but not for any other country? And the GNP of other countries has **** all to do with you: maybe those other countries don't have a gobsmacking national debt of trillions of dollars, which essentially makes them more solvent than the US. Why the **** can't you mind your own business for a change, and stop causing so much death, destruction and misery on this planet.

 

But the Phalanx can only engage one missile at a time. Anti ship missiles will all be salvos of many missiles coming on target at the same time like we saw last night with the Tomahawks.

The Phalanx is the last line of defense and at the same time warships will be using chaff and flare counter defenses. http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a495417.pdf


The forward-deployed Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS McCampbell (DDG 85) launches chaff during a live-fire training exercise.




But the primary CIWS on a U.S. Navy warship is the RAM.

The Raytheon SeaRAM CIWS takes the proven self contained and compact design of the Phalanx and ditches the 20mm Vulcan cannon for a box launcher packed with 11 RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missiles (RAM). The super agile RAM is now a staple on America's heavier surface combatant fleet and it hit extremely maneuverable and supersonic sea skimming targets at over six miles from its launching point...-> https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-seven-deadliest-naval-close-in-weapon-systems-1568291678

 

Cost savings. The saving not only is in the warhead, but even lower grade and lesser electronics can be used. In short, decoys can be cheaper.

But, even if not decoys, merely having enough to get thru gets it done.

For example, military rifles generally have 30 round magazines. If just 1 of the 30 hits the target, it was 100% a success. If the enemy personnel was killed by only 1 or 30 bullets, does that mean that the rifle is a failure because it did not hit the enemy personnel with all 30 bullets?

President Trump made a clear point. No matter that Syria has some workable defensive missiles. We can throw so much at Assad that we can totally overwhelm what he has even if all of it works perfectly. Think of WW2. Often, our equipment was inferior to Germany's - at least at the start. But we has such massive production we could just overwhelm the German military. Their tanks were better, but we had many, many more than Germany had. Same for aircraft, trucks, ships, artillery, bullets, and everything else.

The same is true for missiles, artillery and anything else that does not have personnel in it. If the target is destroyed, the method of doing so was 100% successful. "Overwhelming numbers" is a military advantage. Even if every Syrian defensive missile could take out one of what we were sending in, if need be we have 100 of whatever it is for every defensive missile Syria has.