Almost Half of U.S. Births Happen Outside Marriage, Signaling Cultural Shift

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  1. cd8ed

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    My response was directed at millennials but the lower end of the spectrum (the 10% of people never marry) is a general statistic that crosses all generations.
     
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    and I answered that attacking the children and calling them "bastards" as they did in the past was not about the children it was attacking the children to punish the adults in their fanatical religious minds - you know, they feel they have to toss that first stone as it is what Jesus would want them to do

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    Except that isn’t correct: According to data from the National Survey of Family Growth, the probability of a first marriage lasting at least a decade was 68% for women and 70% for men between 2006 and 2010. The probability that they would make it 20 years was 52% for women and 56% for men

    There are several publications that put the terms “vast”, “overwhelming”, “simple” into a conceptual context. If majority means 50+, vast majority would mean “much more than the majority”.

    Which I have illustrated above is not the case.
     
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    Can you support that?
     
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    sure, this is from a anti-abortion site, so you might trust the stats more

    "U.S. Abortion Statistics"

    http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

    "43% of women obtaining abortions identify themselves as Protestant, and 27% identify themselves as Catholic (AGI)."
    for those two groups of Christians equals 70% of all abortions right there alone
     
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    Dodge noted again.
     
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    Now that marriage is about helping gays feel better about their homosexuality, it has nothing to do with procreation. Before that, governments only justification for licensing and regulating marriage, WAS the potential of procreation. NOW, it has nothing to do with procreation........ unless its closely related people marrying which they prohibit in 50 states because they might procreate and produce genetic abnormalities.
     
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    False. If procreation would have been a requirement or even a recommendation then you would have a point. But it didn’t and still doesn’t — so you don’t.
     
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    Procreation wasn't the goal. Reducing procreation outside of the marriage was the intent. States didn't make it a crime to engage in sex with someone you weren't married to, didn't make it a crime to cohabitate with someone of the opposite sex you were not married to, in order to promote procreation. It was to reduce procreation outside of marriage. ONLY a concern when its two people of the opposite sex in the relationship.
     
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    The only thing a man gets out of a marriage is the ability to surrender himself to someone who can if they so choose divorce him take half of his money for the rest of his life. With this being the case why on Earth would anyone get married?
     
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    traditional marriage?

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy 22:28-29&version=NIV

     
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    Which is easily disproven looking at the ban on interracial marriage until 1948. Even looking at the op — almost more children are born out of marriage than in it. Marriage is a civil and legal document.

    Children may have eventually occurred after a marriage — but it was not the cause or the intent,
     
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    Selectively quoting, aye. Nice. No, I'm talking abhor single motherhood in my full quote.
     
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    No, there is a God given right to consensual sex in wedlock.
     
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    Oh sure, but the rights and law of the land don't care about that.
     
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    So you're suggesting that single mothers should be shamed? Surely you can't be serious.
     
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    Glad we're clear on that.
     
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    I can't find this extract in the source page. Are you sure that you got it from that page? This line exists however:
     
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    No I don't. How is it a connection when not all children that are born outside of marriage results in single parenthood?
     
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    This is what im talking about right here. It was a complete embarrassment for the parents just a generation ago, but now, you are not even taken seriously when you want to blame a person for bringing a child into the world in a terrible situation and ultimately putting that responsibility on the rest of society. Of course, I'm serious. The father and mother if they decide to remain separate should be ashamed.
     
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    So, what are the percentages of children out of wedlock that have two parents in the same home or two parents in two homes?
     
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    What about single fatherhood?
     

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