Almost Half of U.S. Births Happen Outside Marriage, Signaling Cultural Shift

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Can it be assumed that single parents will take government benefits?

    I have no idea, but this article certainly doesn't provide them. Do you know the percentages?
     
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    Yes, I'm not a sexist. That too produces terrible adults, but surprisingly less so than single mothers.
     
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    If it were poker, I'm all in. Just playing the percentages.

    Ok, so you can agree that single parenthood is an outcome so bad that it should be avoided at all cost?
     
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    Not the sharpest crayon in the box. I just said "Procreation wasn't the goal" sooooooo I cant imagine what is it you think you have disproven
     
  5. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Do most? If you are trying make a point please make it.
     
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    If procreation wasn’t the goal it is irrelivant to the discussion.
    The why bring it up in ... every ... single ... thread ...

    Your debate skills are limited to irrelivant information or ancient Latin phrases.
    Oh, and marrying your brother.
     
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    Poverty has been linked to the outcome of childhood development much more than number of parents. The statistics are skewed by a single minority group that is often poor, doesn’t value education, and abuses the welfare system at disproportionate rates.
     
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    I can agree that it is not the ideal that can LEAD to bad outcomes, but it is not in itself a bad outcome because not every situation is the same. To suggest that single parents should be demonised is a disgrace.
     
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    I have no idea. Do you have evidence that suggests that it is most?
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    Its your point whatever it is not mine.
     
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    looks like they changed their site, what I get for linking to an anti-abortion site, guess they did not like their old quote, still, even with their change, that adds up to over 50% with just those two groups of Christians alone, which doesn't count all the others denominations or those that are "just" Christians.... so that more then proves most abortions in America are had by Christians
     
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  12. Bluesguy

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    Doesn't say that at all but what's your point anyway, the majority of the population is Christian.
     
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    of course, that is why what I said was common sense, why someone would ask for proof was a shock to me.... but when they ask, I try to provide

    and btw, when I did the cut and paste it said exactly that, they must of just updated the stats as Christian in general are a shrinking population in America, so the numbers are trending down in all things Christians do, even with the lower percents, it still shows what I say is true, Christians do have the most Abortions

    --> I said: "Christians have the most Abortions"

    --> chris155au said: "Can you support that?"

    so I assume chris155au did not know that
     
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    What absurd logic. Procreation wasn't the goal of my ex wife taking birth control pills thorough out our 5 year relationship, BUT THE POTENTIAL of procreation is why she took birth control pills. AND when she later found out with her second husband that she was physically incapable of becoming pregnant, STILL, the potential of procreation is why she took birth control pills and why the dr prescribed them.
     
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    I don't believe you. Here is what the report actually says

    In 2014, 30% of aborting women identified themselves as Protestant and 24% identified themselves as Catholic (AGI).

    and your alleged cut and paste

    No results found for "43% of women obtaining abortions identify themselves as Protestant, and 27%".
    https://www.google.com/search?as_q=..._occt=any&safe=images&as_filetype=&as_rights=
     
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    why would I make that up... geesh

    here is another anti-abortion site with the old stats - same numbers I quoted from the other site before they changed them

    https://www.abortionno.org/abortion-facts/

    "Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 43% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 27%;"

    it looks like the old stats are from 2008 data and the new stats are from 2014 data

    the fact remains that both the updated and old numbers still support the claim that most Americans that get abortions are indeed Christians
     
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    She took birth control because she didn’t want to reproduce with you. Why would you get married if you weren’t planning on reproducing? Since that’s its purpose...

    Again, you just invalidated your argument that the potential of procreation is in any way shape or form relevant to marriage. It isn’t. It never was. And the only reason y’all are wining this now is because gay people can wed - just like when interracial marriage was made legal and the christofacists screamed “God’s punishment” was upon us.

    It’s old - and you’ve exhausted this narrative. Its time to retire it,
     
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    I’m sure you don’t see the absurdity of the pro-life Christian movement. Y’all want to ban the libruls from killen their bundle of lifeless cells when it’s mainly Christian women doing it.

    It’s disturbing how y’all just dance around fact and logic at every step and turn
     
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    Poverty correlates to childhood development which correlates to multiple parent households. Those born in multiple parent households are more successful in almost every measure.
     
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    They made a bad decision. You reward bad decisions if you want, but I'm surely tired of doing so.
     
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    I don't see absurdity in any pro-life movement, I find it in the pro-abortion movement. Who's "y'all" and are you Southern?
     
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    I see tons of absurdity it in - the morning after pill is not killing a fetus, nor is early term abortion.
    Y’all refers to the people pushing this narrative, not necessarily you
    And yes - I’m fairly southern
     
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    What was the "bad decision?" The decision to be a single parent?

    You USED to reward them?
     
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    not demonizing single parents is not the same as rewarding them
     
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