America Is Superior | Change My Mind

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  1. micfranklin

    micfranklin Banned

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    To tie into that, the U.S. is ranked 31st in life expectancy out of the entire world. All the money, technology and innovation we supposedly have and we're not even in the top 20 of that category.
     
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    No, it’s about some people vote counting more than others.

    One person = one vote.

    I really with both parties would come together and make a few changes; national voter ID system, disband the EC, introduce digital voting and eliminate first past the post.
     
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    I can name three...Number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real and defense spending, where we spend more than the next seven largest military budgets combined.
     
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    America's relative wealth means even the poorest among us are obese, diabetic/heart diseased slobs. in other words, it's intellectually dishonest to blame America's healthcare system for America's life-expectancy ranking.

    Opioid crisis? four-plus million miles of roadways and 250 million vehicles? these things also contribute to America's longevity statistics.
     
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  5. micfranklin

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    I mea there’s obviously other facts at play there but it’s still disappointing that a nation people boast as being the greatest in the world doesn’t ever crack the top 10 best in a lot of categories.
     
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    Well, there's always the door...
     
  7. micfranklin

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    Dude, there's so many flaws in our country from its history on to its current affairs that its ridiculous to think everything is perfect now.
     
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    So the Millions of Middle East refugees flowing into Europe proves European countries are the greatest in the world?
     
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    Can you summarize the evidence. Hard to justify spending 30 minutes watching a video by Crowder whoever he is or what ever his credentials are. We know for sure we are not the highest per capita GDP in the world. Nor are we the happiest population in the world. Nor do we have the best healthcare outcomes. So what are we the best in. What does Crowder claim?
     
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    I don't give a s*** about income gaps I don't know about life expectancy and I don't see why that makes a country better. It's easy to manage your debt when you don't pay for your defense.

    Nobody comes close to us with freedom of the press because nobody else has the First Amendment
     
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    That's cause we have the fattest poor people in the world. Giving people the easy life because of capitalism doesn't have to do with how our health care works. You can tell people they are fat and need to lose weight all day long at the doctors office, its still up to the individual to make the life style changes needed to live longer. When it comes down to it, our emergency room care and cancer survival rate is much better than living in the UK or EU and dying on the waiting list to be seen or waiting on surgeries and chemotherapy.
     
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    The proper measure is GDP per capita.
     
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    Rankings of countries by freedom of the press:

    https://rsf.org/en/ranking
     
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    Nonsense, here is country ranking


    https://rsf.org/en/ranking
     
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    Do you know what the freedom of speech means?
     
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    I think you must be talking about healthcare spending.
     
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    Yes and it is largly manifested by freedom of the press.
     
  18. micfranklin

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    Yea, Webrockk said this to me already. I maintain there's still other factors.
     
  19. Polydectes

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    oh that's fine I was just explaining why I had direct democracy is a dictatorship.

    yes that is too why we have it, I would not call it perfect but it is better than direct democracy. And again no nobody votes on our behalf.


    do you like turtles represent the votes.

    not exactly the electors represent electoral votes and the state goes one way or the other based on the majority.

    I believe one of the only times this ever happened was because the person that people voted for died


    we will cross that bridge when we come to it.
     
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    You have no more freedoms in America than in most European countries.Exactly how successful our military??How many wars have we been on the clear winning side since WW2??We were the worlds predominant country after WW2 as Europe slowly rebuilt itself after the devastation of WW2.From 1945-1975 we were clearly superior, since then we have faded badly.We had a great interstate highway system which we now can no longer maintain,our cities now have over 00 year old sewer systems and water systems we can no longer upgrade and maintain,same is true of our airports,ports and infrastructure in general.Our healthcare and medical is by far the highest priced in the world while being far from the best.
     
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    You know it's just the outrage of the day. I haven't heard about one of his Tweets in a while
     
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    It's an invite to have a discussion. And if your positions really compelling a rational person would change their mind
     
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    How are these countries ranked what is the objective measure they are ranked by?

    In the United States would be number one because we have for the First Amendment and no one else does.

    So I find your list suspect.
     
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    I think you misunderstand my sarcasm
     
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    Our defense budget doesn’t have to be more than the next seven countries combined.

    Canada does
     

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