American Gun Sales Collapse in 47 States

You don't know the difference between a grown woman and a child is what you're saying. Thanks.

 

What part of criminal did you miss?

Sorry, your reasoning doesn't apply to a country that was founded on being able to defend yourself.

 

And that is why adults should be able to carry a firearm. Defense is not just for a singular person, though some think that way.

Adults charged with defending non-adults usually do carry firearms. Similar to military duty, SOME fail during crunch time.

 

Cops are civilians. People not working in law enforcement can and do get by without killing anyone. But those cops didn’t stop carrying a firearm after 5 years of not needing it. Why didn’t they stop carrying the fool thing?

 

Because it was issued and considered part of the uniform

Quite a few cops DON'T carry guns

https://www.brunswickgroup.com/unar...xt=More than 90 percent of,t want to be armed.

 

Being able to defend yourself does not necessitate the totally unregulated possession of guns.

 

LOL, those are not American police officers read your own link.

 

Unregulated? So background checks, and in some states, permits, is equal to unregulated?

 

Virtually unregulated is what most gun advocates want. What we have now is a step in the right direction but far from what is necessary.

 

Why is it part of the “uniform”?

I’m not interested in UK cops. I want to know why US cops don’t go unarmed. Can you provide a link to officers in the US lobbying for the ability to go unarmed?

 

No, virtually unregulated is not what 'most' people want. What currently exists is tolerated, even though it violates the 2nd Amendment. People understand the necessity of keeping guns out of violent people's hands.

It is not a 'step in the right direction'. Better mental health care would be, however.

 

Better mental health facilities would be very desirable overall for many reasons, it might even help this problem a little, but as long as we have powerful guns very readily available to almost anyone we are going to have massacres inevitably, there is no way around this I can see.

 

We have to get rid of the guns we have in civilian hands first. That can and will be done once the sane public gets fed up with being preyed upon

 

Cops are civilians.

Guns aren’t going away.

Anyone who thinks guns are going to be unavailable to criminals in the US at some point is not sane.

 

It's been done in other countries that were more heavily armed and it was while converting to less oppressive governments.

 

I’d like to see examples.

But any example is irrelevant to the reality that it isn’t going to happen here in the United States. One reason is about half the states would leave the Union if it was attempted.

I’m still waiting for the requested examples of law enforcement agencies lobbying for disarmament of LE. Around here, State Patrol officers spend their weekends helping people get concealed carry permits and teaching kids how to shoot.

 

no it has not. Repeating this comedy won’t make any of your dreams come true. You seem to avoid reality whenever possible, the rest of us remain logical.

 

Believe it or not -- Australia in the 1800's had as high or higher gun ownership as America. But as the frontier receded and it was clear the French and Russians weren't on the way we saw little need for guns. Perhaps offensively, our gun past has been written out of our history to some extent, and museum exhibits on Aussie guns closed.

 

Cops want to be armed as much as criminals, they can't be expected to go unarmed as long as we permit guns to everybody.

Like most conservatives, you vastly overestimate your degree of support. No State has left the Union since 1860 and certainly not to support Crazy Uncle Lester's basement.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/alison...its-record-hnligh-poll-finds/?sh=52af056362f2

 

What makes me a conservative? My being a practicing socialist? My dislike for authoritarian law enforcement? My position that drugs should be decriminalized? LOL

States joined the Union based on those states having the ability to prevent the Federal government having a monopoly on violence. States have never needed or wanted to leave over that issue in the past because every bill and statute passed since the adoption of the constitution has re-affirmed states’ ability to prevent federal monopoly on violence.

Who is uncle Lester? Your link doesn’t work. It just directs to a generic Forbes page.

 

I dunno what happened to the Forbes page and I can't find it again.

Uncle Lester is that guy you know with a Thompson in his basement.

I always thought States joined the Union for rather different reasons than that.

 

You should spend less time reading journalist’s unsubstantiated opinions and more time reading the Federalist Papers and text of Militia Acts etc.

How does a Thompson in a basement hurt you? Are you breaking into Lester’s basement?

 

Remember when you were going to show us how to get all the guns from the criminals? What happened to that?

 

Are those who commit mass shootings, mentally healthy? The answer is no. So mental health care should have more of an impact then 'a little'.

 

Many people's first symptom of heart disease is a trip to the cemetery, just so many people's first manifesting of a mental disorder is their massacring 10 people. You can have a heart attack anytime, anywhere but you can't shoot people with a gun that's not there