American Soldiers refuse orders to attack Syria!

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  1. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    Incorrect. Christian Zionists, for example, desire the fall of Israel once their own maniacal dreams are fulfilled. Israel's existence is many things- but ' continued ' ain't one of them.
     
  2. Jack Napier

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    Nope.

    We just don't want to murder any more women and children, based on unsubstantiated 'evidence', most of which was provided by your little state, and revolved around an 'intercepted phone call'.

    We don't lack balls.

    We have a democratic process in which the PM must go to Parliament and seek approval. Just as you will see the US President do the same. By your logic, if Congress doesn't give their approval, that means we, the US, in fact THE WHOLE WORLD... 'lacks balls'.

    Except for Israel of course.

    They show they are tough guys every day.

    By bullying women and children in their own land.
     
  3. Gilos

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    Your country gov and Parliament are cowards, they left their allies alone after giving their word, what ever happens from now on is on their shoulders including all the ppl Assad will murder by gas or other means.
     
  4. moon

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    :mrgreen: Wasn't it you that was earlier bellyaching about attacks against specific political groups ? Ah, that must have been bellyaching about attacks against your political group, eh ? :mrgreen: Hypocrisy as policy.

    Incidentally, the Brit government was following the law. Your lot don't. Let us know when you appreciate the difference.
     
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    We can all SEE how much it is angering Israeli Jews that people don't want to murder women and children for Zion anymore. And we all know why, right? Because you want others to do your dirty work, as per usual. Guess what chum, people here have different morals and ethics.

    We don't feel like tough guys when we kill women and children, and we don't feel like tough guys when we sneak around getting others to do our dirty work for us.

    Israel can frankly take it's 'intelligence' and shove it.

    And don't try your 'whatever happens now is on our shoulders' BS. Those methods don't work with me either.
     
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    You will have to look it up yourself but when a soldier has a legit reason for not fighting they are let out of it without being Court Marshalled. British Soldiers refusing ti fight in Iraq because they thought the War was illegal could not be prosecuted.
     
  7. Gilos

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    Its according to regulations to critic a gov or an official like Cameron, I did not attack the British ppl.
     
  8. Gilos

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    Im not angrey at all, I simply state the obvious, your Gov acted in cowardness favouring politics rather then helping the Syrian ppl - that's a fact chum and everyone can see it.

    Syrain border was and still is the safest border Israel has, Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon get 2,000,000 refugees however and they dont like it at all, I think that if the wesy wont act Turkey might.

    We dont care if Assad or Rebels take over, from my view I think we shouldnt let Assad get away with genocide but if no one acts on it so be it.

    You dont see Israel kicking his butt because the US holds us back and for a good reason, but if all hell breaks loose, well, you may well find yourself scream about further occupation.
     
  9. moon

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    Sure you did. Hypocrisy unchained- a disgraceful exhibition.

    gilos;
    Now, I don't personally care who you attack. What riles is the hypocrisy of your comments regarding attacks on neoZionism- a repugnant and criminal offshoot of a doctrine of ethnic cleansing . I can understand your ' arse-covering', but there's no reason anybody should tolerate it.
     
  10. Face. Your

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    I agree you have done nothing but offer lies in this thread.

    This is an overt lie, Hezbollah is a Syrian and Iranian created, funded, trained, and directed organization not a Lebanese organization, created not only to resist Israeli occupation but to obliterate Israel, and to establish a theocracy in Lebanon, and to prove this we need look no further than the Hezbollah manifesto:

    We are often asked: Who are we, the Hizballah, and what is our identity? We are the sons of the umma (Muslim community) - the party of God (Hizb Allah) the vanguard of which was made victorious by God in Iran. There the vanguard succeeded to lay down the bases of a Muslim state which plays a central role in the world. We obey the orders of one leader, wise and just, that of our tutor and faqih (jurist) who fulfills all the necessary conditions: Ruhollah Musawi Khomeini. God save him!

    By virtue of the above, we do not constitute an organized and closed party in Lebanon. nor are we a tight political cadre. We are an umma linked to the Muslims of the whole world by the solid doctrinal and religious connection of Islam, whose message God wanted to be fulfilled by the Seal of the Prophets, i.e., Muhammad. This is why whatever touches or strikes the Muslims in Afghanistan, Iraq, the Philippines and elsewhere reverberates throughout the whole Muslim umma of which we are an integral part. Our behavior is dictated to us by legal principles laid down by the light of an overall political conception defined by the leading jurist (wilayat al-faqih).

    We call upon all of them to pick the option of Islamic government which, alone, is capable of guaranteeing justice and liberty for all. Only an Islamic regime can stop any further tentative attempts of imperialistic infiltration into our country.

    The Necessity for the Destruction of Israel

    We see in Israel the vanguard of the United States in our Islamic world. It is the hated enemy that must be fought until the hated ones get what they deserve. This enemy is the greatest danger to our future generations and to the destiny of our lands, particularly as it glorifies the ideas of settlement and expansion, initiated in Palestine, and yearning outward to the extension of the Great Israel, from the Euphrates to the Nile.

    Our primary assumption in our fight against Israel states that the Zionist entity is aggressive from its inception, and built on lands wrested from their owners, at the expense of the rights of the Muslim people. Therefore our struggle will end only when this entity is obliterated. We recognize no treaty with it, no cease fire, and no peace agreements, whether separate or consolidated.

    We vigorously condemn all plans for negotiation with Israel, and regard all negotiators as enemies, for the reason that such negotiation is nothing but the recognition of the legitimacy of the Zionist occupation of Palestine. Therefore we oppose and reject the Camp David Agreements, the proposals of King Fahd, the Fez and Reagan plan, Brezhnev's and the French-Egyptian proposals, and all other programs that include the recognition (even the implied recognition) of the Zionist entity.


    http://www.cfr.org/terrorist-organizations-and-networks/open-letter-hizballah-program/p30967

    Abject nonsense they will only be tolerant of Christians so long as they observe the Sharia and submit as Dhimmi; furthermore, during the Lebanese-Israeli war they would intentionally set up their headquarters and rocket sites in Christian neighborhoods not to mention their assassination of the anti-Syrian Christian Prime Minister Saad Hariri.

    To the Christians
    If you, Christians, cannot tolerate that Muslims share with you certain domains of government, Allah has also made it intolerable for Muslims to participate in an unjust regime, unjust for you and for us, in a regime which is not predicated upon the prescriptions (ahkam) of religion and upon the basis of the Law (the Shari’a) as laid down by Muhammad, the Seal of the Prophets.


    http://www.cfr.org/terrorist-organizations-and-networks/open-letter-hizballah-program/p30967

    Hezbollah uses Christian villages as shields in missile attacks

    Washington D.C., Aug 3, 2006 / 12:00 am (CNA).- Recent reports indicate that Hezbollah is using Christian villages to shield its attacks against Israel.

    According to Christian Solidarity International, Hezbollah is hiding among civilian populations, mostly in southern Lebanese towns, such as Ain Ebel, Rmeish, Alma Alshaab.

    This is not a new strategy for Hezbollah. Col. Charbel Barka, a former South Lebanese Army commander, says Hezbollah is repeating what it did in attacks against Israel in 1996.

    A Christian from the village of Ain Ebel, who requested to remain nameless for fear of a reprisal from Hezbollah, reported that he found Hezbollah fighters setting up a launcher on his rooftop. Hezbollah fighters ignored his pleas to stop and fired the missiles. He immediately gathered his family and fled his home, which was bombed 15 minutes later by an Israeli air strike.


    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/n...stian_villages_as_shields_in_missile_attacks/

    Report: Hezbollah officials receive indictments in Hariri murder probe
    UN-backed tribunal arrives in Beirut to issue four arrest warrants for Hezbollah officials accused of the assassination of former Lebanon PM.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/r...e-indictments-in-hariri-murder-probe-1.370449

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    They are a theocratic paramilitary force which refuses to disarm in stark contravention of UNSC Resolutions even though Israel has completely withdrew from Lebanese territory as verified by the United Nations.

    I already stated that the U.S. aided the indigenous mujahedin that would go on to form the Taliban, but we never supported the foreign fighters who would go on to form Al-Qaeda, they had their own sources of funding IE the wealthy gulf states from which they came; furthermore, the Haqqani network is not a global Jihadist movement but rather a regional militant Islamist organization.
     
  11. Gilos

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    No I really mean it, I have nothing against the Brit ppl, but the British Gov/Par made a cowardly decision. it betrayed their allies anf more than that the Syrian ppl.

    I think its very amusing to see all buzz on that considering all the attacks/criticism launched on my gov daily, what;s the matter? you ppl cant deal with some criticism on your own ? lol
     
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    Again, you can attack whomsoever you please and I'll support your right to so do. It's the hypocrisy which sticks in the craw.
     
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    It is all of those things, and the UN investigation was surprise surprise not sent to determine the perpetrators.
     
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    Name these American politicians who support the destruction of Israel in line with biblical prophecy. :roll: "Christian Zionists" support the restoration of Israel in line with biblical prophecy which they believe is necessary for the 2nd coming of Christ, this does not demand "the fall of Israel," nor does it even require a conversion of the Jews to Christianity according to prominent Christian Zionists. Regardless most Christians who support Israel do so on secular not religious grounds.


    Israel's existence is a beacon of progress and light in the center of Muslim backwardness and darkness.
     
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    RED AND BOLD ADDED BY REVA

    Yeah.... it reminds me of Holocaust deniers!

    reva
     
  16. moon

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    Israel is none of those things and the collected UN evidence should be made available to international authorities in order to determine the possible perpetrators.
     
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    Hey, I'm not going to get involved with extremists and their insane sectarian mumbo-jumbo beyond knowing who is up who and why. :mrgreen: Bigots are bad enough. Religious bigots belong in the rubber room.

    Sounds like target marking for the Angel of Death. Dream on.
     
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    Israel is all of those things, they are a liberal, democratic, and secular nation-state in a region where there is none.

    The United Nations are the "international authorities" and they themselves declared that their mission in Syria was only to determine if chemical weapons were used not to determine who perpetrated the attacks.
     
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    So in other words this is your not so subtle way in admitting that Zionism is simply support for the continued existence of Israel, and that you can not name a single U.S. politician or even a religious leader who is a "Christian Zionist" who supports the destruction of Israel. :roll;

    No it's actually the reality of the world we live on no matter if you choose to accept or deny this reality the facts won't change that Israel is a liberal, secular, and democratic state in a region where there is none.

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    This appears to be confirmation of a private world into which I have no desire to enter.
     
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    This is a propaganda thread with fake pictures.
    Paid for by the Butcher Assad from Syria and written by his aid who love to see his own people gassed to death 'SyrianGirl' as long as he gets paid for this.
     
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    well this is the news we have all been waiting for isn't it :thumbsup:


    Ahmed Jarba to the Arab League

    You all know who he is right?

    "Help us get Assad out and our rebels in and Syria will be the gateway to attack and crush Iran"

    "match the Russian and Iranian support for Assad and we will do the rest"
     
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    Technically speaking since we have officially declared war on Al Queda (GWB after 9/11) wouldn't it be an act of treason for American Soldiers fight with Al Queda?
     
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    My brother was in the Marine Corps for 12 years and he said that he would NEVER serve under Obama cause the man is an idiot. Now whether he would refuse to do what he was told to do IF he were still in uniform is questionable. When I visit him again, I will have to ask him. :)
     
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