America's Russia Derangement Syndrome

As we speak, the US government is helping a dictatorship (Saudi Arabia) bomb weddings and starve children in Yemen.

The US government is run by evil sociopaths whose lust for power is only exceeded by their hypocrisy.

And the only people who are unaware of this fact are Americans themselves. They've been convinced by the government and its stenographers in the corporate media that America is hated because of our mini-skirts and cheeseburgers, AKA, our freeDUMB. In reality, America is hated because the corrupt US government sows horror and misery all around the world on behalf of greedy oligarchs.

 

Saudi Arabia is a monarchy and an ally of the US

Like most Americans I know very little about Yeman

But there is a broad international coalition of arab and western countries opposing the rebels who are radical Shia fundies getting support from iran

So I think the Saudi’s probably know what they are doing

 

This sort of overstatement of the situation is just what drives everyone but a tiny minority of the Far Left into reflexive patriotism.

The US government isn't fundamentally different from any other. American super-patriots assume that it is, that their country is uniquely virtuous and motivated only by the desire to do Good (or either they couldn't care less, 'my country right or wrong'). The Amerikkka-is-the-cause-of-all-evil view is just this super-patriot view turned inside out.

It's also historically ignorant. The free peoples of the world were very glad of American military strength when it was brought to bear on Hitler and Tojo. The Arab people had reason to thank the US in 1956 when it forced the British and French to withdraw from their occupation of Egypt. Having supported the bloody Pinochet dictatorship in Chile, the US also was influential in forcing Pinochet to accept the vote in 1988 which effectively ended his rule. No doubt these actions were all taken out of self-interest, but that is how all governments work.

The 'uniquely-evil-America' view actually gets in the way of educating Americans to understand the world, and to see what's wrong with supporting tyrants, intervening in other countries' affairs, having 400 military bases abroad, including an 'African Command'. It says, to oppose these crimes and stupidities, you have to hate your own country. Good luck with that.

 

Those of us who served below the 17th parallel, surrendering or being captured wasn't an option.

We were well indoctrinated on the U.S. military Code of Conducted.

Today those who serve today can't make the same claim.

They will live in disgrace.


President Obama's politically correct sailors who were indoctrinated in PC
diversity instead of the U.S. military Code of Conduct.

Every man has a breaking point.
During the 2008 Presidential election liberals use to make fun that Senator McCain couldn't raise his arms above his shoulders.
Because McCain was physically tortured while as a POW.

Every man has a breaking point. Since I didn't have that option of surrendering or being captured I will never know...

All I know and knew was the Code of Conduct and I wasn't a hero.

Upholding the Code of Conduct doesn't make one a hero. It's mandatory.

John McCain failed upholding Article V of the Code of Conduct.
But every man has a breaking point.
Would have I broke under the same situation ???

FYI:
My son flew a FA-18C for over ten years and did two combat tours killing Islamist ********s from above.
Today he's flying a F-35B.
He also did a two year tour of duty as a ground FAC (Forward Air Controller) with Marine grunts.
After serving two years with Marine riflemen (grunts) and also as a XO of a Marine rifle battalion he looks at war completely differently just like his father.


My father served in the Pacific during WW ll as a U.S. Marine. He saw combat in the South West Pacific (Solomon Islands) and in the Central Pacific (Iwo Jima) and he wasn't a hero.

I did one tour of duty (13 months) in Vietnam. I wasn't a hero.

My son did three combat tours of duty (Iraq and Afghanistan) He's not a hero.

John McCain did a tour of duty during the Vietnam War, was shot down above the 17th parallel, was captured, tortured as a POW and upheld the Code of Conduct as best as he could.

 

That's right, so Col. Bone Spur should ST*U and consider himself a lucky man that he doesn't carry the same physical and mental scares as those who go into harms way and get captured and tortured.

 

Let me see, should I believe a judge in the case, or Sean Hannity? Boy, that's a tough one.

 

Senator McCain should "ST*U" and consider himself a lucky man.

I'll give McCain credit for not using his military service to get elected as a Senator, only liberal Democrats who never served bring it up.

Only one politician ran for political office on his war record successfully unknown to most that he was found guilty of dereliction of duty during a military naval court of inquiry, the lost of a PT boat during war time...that was John F. Kennedy.

Another politician tried following in Kennedy's footsteps and ran on his military record during the Vietnam War and was "Swiftboated" bigly by those who were there and done that.

 

The NYT's, Margot? Really?

I see there is no concrete prove-able, supporting evidence in that article (as ever), but just more of the now usual --- he said-she said-sources say --- prejudiced tosh they punt out as journalism these days?

For the record, I've been following this Putin-did-it and Russia-gate story since day one and have yet to see any evidence that is even remotely convincing. It looks like propaganda, it smells like propaganda and quacks like propaganda. I guess it must be propaganda.

Is it that the American public never learn that they confidently continue with this trash, I wonder?

I note that Sergei Skripal was a "Russian military officer" (GRU) to use the term they use in their article. Once. Until his arrest in 2004 for being a double agent for the British.

I also remember that intelligence briefing on Jan 6 2017, they describe in para 6.

As I recall, it was later publicly shredded for almost certainly being a truly slack document. In fact, it is thought that it was the Steele Dossier, prepared by former MI6/SIS officer, Christopher Steele, lately of Orbis (HERE). And we know that Steele's close chum, Pablo Miller, also of MI6, and also, coincidentally, of Orbis too, was the man who recruited Sergei Skripal (HERE) to British intelligence. That's why many people think Skripal was also involved in manufacturing that dossier.

Btw, during the Skripal poisoning controversy, Miller's name was subjected to a defence secrecy order, known as D Notice, that forbade the British media from naming him. Curios that. It suggest he is still working for the boys at Vauxhall Bridge Road.

If, in fact, this new NYT's article really is a regurgitation of that discredited Steele Dossier then the Times are being very, deceitful and conniving in not mentioning it's recent rancid history.

 

No, the Draft Dodger in Chief should ST*U and stop pretending his opinion on anyone who served, and has the scars to prove it, is relevant.

 

Nearly all of the dossier has been confirmed by European intelligence separately and before the release of the dossier.

 

So little, in fact, you can't even spell it's name. And it's only five letters long...

What was it ethereal was saying about "freeDUMB"?

 

How's the view?

 

Which nobody has argued in this thread.

 

Is that right. And your evidence for that claim is?

 

A searing rebuttal. Striped Horse will need some time to recover from that.

 

Been posted repeatedly. The only part that hasn't been confirmed is the report of the pee incident.

 

Not funny how you libs changed the definition of who was a draft dodger.

An U.S. Army surgeon (commissioned officer) confirmed that Donald Trump had two bone spurs during Trump's draft classification medical physical. Even today no one can serve in the U.S. military who has bone spurs just as even today flat feet can prevent one from serving.

Draft dodger ???

Here's a draft dodger.

Received his induction orders twice and weaseled his way from not showing up at basic training and actually someone else had to show up and serve in his place. TWICE

 

Sure pal.

 

I'm a Republican. Tell me more about your service Mr. Self Proclaimed Hero.

 

This response indicates pretty clearly whose head is in the sand.

 

As best I can tell, without actually knowing you at all... it seems to suit you.

I could be wrong though, and I'll continue to give you the benefit of the doubt for awhile longer, even though your above post (No. 104) is riddled with historical fallacies and inaccuracies beginning with para 3.

You should consider doing some modern research before posting self-inflating, braggadocios nonsense like that again. There's an awful lot of actual history about WWII that is now available that changes your rosy antique picture.

And your first para of that above post started out so well too. Pity.

 

I may never recover from it...

 

You are confusing me with John Kerry.

That's not funny.

 

Yours

 

104 isn't my post.

Apparently your view isn't too good.