Angela Merkel Lectured Trump On Global Warming, Now Germany Abandoning Its Climate Goal.....

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  1. Distraff

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    So proper science funding is excess now?
     
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    Proper funding for Scientists doesn't come with a running tab. Again why didn't the Weather Whisperers debunk those Physicists? Maybe if they could have debunked the real scientists they could have got some more funding.

    That they couldn't debunk them.....says what?
     
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    While that is quite clever, it misses the point. We are in a warming cycle with or without man. Yet I have no doubt man has added to the rate of warming. But how much? And that is the question which the limited knowledge of climatology cannot answer. They can only guess.

    This might turn out to be more positive than negative. We just might push off the next ice age for future people, by the co2 levels. But, the next ice age will indeed occur. Unless we change historical cycles.

    Where IMO, the limited knowledge of science has it wrong is in what they predict. I don't think they have enough understanding and knowledge to predict much of anything. Climatology before the co2 hysteria, would admit their own limitation of knowledge which disallowed accurate long term predictions. But suddenly, now they KNOW? I call bullcrap on this. It is amazing what billions of tax dollars injected into this field has yielded!!! CERTAINTY where not that long ago, they were much more humble, and honest. Money has that effect, I am afraid, and on all things. Science is no longer immune from it.

    I think climatology has lost credibility, and integrity, so much so, it should hardly even be called a science, unless it is called a soft science. Creds and integrity is found in physics. Only money can effect a soft science. No, strike that, it isn't only money but even something like social engineering. We saw the latter with this homosexuality condition. It was taken off the list of mental illnesses, by pressure. Such is what can happen in a soft science. Because of the lack of reasonable certainty.
     
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    Not as much as cows. Cows regurgitate, pigs don't. :giggle:
     
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    Dog poo - and that comes from someone living in Germany.
    A simpled minded explanation for and by simple minded fools who obviously don't know what they talking about.
     
  6. Distraff

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    What wait? How do you know that nature is responsible for this warming in the last 100 years? If you know that nature is responsible then specifically what is the cause rather than just saying "nature." You keep making up claims without supporting them with evidence and you are trying to tell us that you are smarter than the climate scientists?
     
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    You are going to have to articulate what exactly are you claiming with your running tab and the weather whisperers conspiracy theory.
     
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    There is no problem to solve

    The earth has always warmer and cooled in cycles naturally

    And through it all we are still here
     
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    Never before has a species dug up tons and tons of CO2 stored deep underground and pumped it into the atmosphere. You have no clue what you're talking about.
     
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    ????? The earth warms after every ice age. We should expect nothing other than warming. When it stops, this is likely the beginning of our next decent into the next ice age. Hotter summers are nothing compared to ice scrapping civilization off the surface of Canada.
     
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    But that warming is very gradual over hundreds of thousands of years and the gradual tend has nothing to do with short-term trends over a few decades. That like explaining the hot summer in Chicago with tiny changes to the earth's orbit over millions of years. And you have still failed to explain what exactly is warming the planet.
     
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    Climate goals. LOL The goal was to get America to sign a climate deal that would hurt our economy and let the rest of the world catch up with us. Now that we won't play the game one country after another will back out of this.
     
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    You dont know what you are talking About either

    All you are doong is repeating the scare tactics that worked on you
     
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    Really? Because this climate deal allowed every country to set their own goals and did not really require them to even achieve these goals. They required every country to set their goals not just the US.
     
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    Man's ability to do that is DWARFED by nature's ability to do the same thing. Mirror?
     
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    The cause, on nature's part? Whatever creates and causes the cyclical warming and cooling. They do not know what creates the cooling down into an ice age. So they probably don;t know what creates the warming either. So they blame it all on man!! Ah ha.
     
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    Interesting comparison because forest fires are always considered naturally caused unless proven otherwise. If no source of ignition can be found the default position is natural causes.
     
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    But the US was the one expected to actually meet it's goals. Now that we are out the deals crumbling. This was all about making the US pay up.
     
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    Unfortunately for western Europe, the damage is done. By 2050 fully 20-25% of their overall population will be from violent 3rd world countries. It's just a matter of time now.
     
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    How can you claim that "whatever creates and causes the cyclical warming and cooling" over hundreds of thousands of years is causing the recent warming in the last few decades when you have even admitted that you don't even know what they are and then you have the nerve to claim that scientists don't know either because you haven't even been bothered to learn? Again, what specifically is causing this warming?
     
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    Merkel needs to go **** herself. I hope Trump received her remarks with all due disrespect.
     
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    Actually the cause is considered unknown until a cause is found. You can't assume a forest fire is natural when some idiot who dropped his cigarette or didn't put out is camp fire properly could have easily caused it.
     
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    Who knew enlightenment came in a bomb belt?
     
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    Actually all countries are expected to meet their goals, that is the whole point of a deal between all countries. Its just that the US like most countries in the world just doesn't.
     
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    Because cycles never stop? And we are still coming out of the last ice age. Which means we are warming. And man is adding some to it. I don't see the problem. We adapt as we always have. Can't stop mother nature.
     

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