Anyone Suffer From 'AAD'--Aggressive Atheist Disorder?

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    Nice try but you failed again. The country succeeds if we remember our Father God. This is why we cannot pledge to follow the current Democrat leaders because they deny God. We are seeing the outcome with all the division caused by the atheists, communist BLM, fascist Antifa and Biden-Pelosi-Schumer communists. communism by definition is anti-God. Until the citizens put their foot down against the communist movement we will continue to go downhill as a country.
     
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    Not once has an atheist come to my door to try to convince me to not believe in god. Not once has an atheist approached me at a mall parking lot to try to convince me to not believe in god.
    Also, how many people have been killed in the name of atheism???
     
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    As I've said many times over...people like the OP just need something to be outrage about. They go from one issue to the next. Rinse. Repeat.
     
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    Great post, JET :thumbsup:

    Sorry to hear that you had to take one for the team as a kid.

    When I became an agnostic who leans heavily atheist in my mid-20s my old man (a staunch believer) wasn't dumb enough to try to punch me in the face.

    Anyway, these weak, frightened believers have no proof to support their fantastical hypothesis that some creator-god exists, of course.

    They can only cling to their childish fantasies...
     
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    I was dead for billions of years before life. Life and death are just two sides of the same coin. In death all sensation, pain and suffering shall cease. Why fear coming home?
     
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    The U.S. Constitution is an entirely secular document with no mention of any god or being inspired by god. I can recall a quote by John Adams where he stated that the rights granted to the people

    were not sent down from Heaven but came from men. The pledge of allegiance was written by a Baptist minister in the 1950's to differentiate the U.S. from communist countries and does

    not reflect what most of the Founder's believed, that we are "a nation under God". We are a nation of the people, by the people, and for the people. I didn't like reciting the pledge as a child

    so i generally never uttered those words. I didn't believe that there was liberty and justice for all. I came to those conclusions by about age 7. The influence of Deism on the Founder's is discussed

    below and is from https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Founding-Fathers-Deism-and-Christianity-1272214



    Although no examination of history can capture the inner faith of any person, these four indicators can help locate the Founders on the religious spectrum. Ethan Allen, for example, appears clearly to have been a non-Christian Deist. James Monroe, a close friend of Paine, remained officially an Episcopalian but may have stood closer to non-Christian Deism than to Christian Deism. Founders who fall into the category of Christian Deists include Washington (whose dedication to Christianity was clear in his own mind), John Adams, and, with some qualifications, Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson was more influenced by the reason-centred Enlightenment than either Adams or Washington. Orthodox Christians among the Founders include the staunchly Calvinistic Samuel Adams. John Jay (who served as president of the American Bible Society), Elias Boudinot (who wrote a book on the imminent Second Coming of Jesus), and Patrick Henry (who distributed religious tracts while riding circuit as a lawyer) clearly believed in Evangelical Christianity.

    Although orthodox Christians participated at every stage of the new republic, Deism influenced a majority of the Founders. The movement opposed barriers to moral improvement and to social justice. It stood for rational inquiry, for skepticism about dogma and mystery, and for religious toleration. Many of its adherents advocated universal education, freedom of the press, and separation of church and state. If the nation owes much to the Judeo-Christian tradition, it is also indebted to Deism, a movement of reason and equality that influenced the Founding Fathers to embrace liberal political ideals remarkable for their time.
     
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    “By their actions, the Founding Fathers made clear that their primary concern was religious freedom, not the advancement of a state religion. Individuals, not the government, would define religious faith and practice in the United States. Thus the Founders ensured that in no official sense would America be a Christian Republic. Ten years after the Constitutional Convention ended its work, the country assured the world that the United States was a secular state, and that its negotiations would adhere to the rule of law, not the dictates of the Christian faith. The assurances were contained in the Treaty of Tripoli of 1797 and were intended to allay the fears of the Muslim state by insisting that religion would not govern how the treaty was interpreted and enforced. John Adams and the Senate made clear that the pact was between two sovereign states, not between two religious powers.”
    ― Franklin T. Lambert, The Founding Fathers and the Place of Religion in America


    This portion of a sermon by Reverend Billy Wilson from 1831 may not be entirely true, since John Adams and John Quincy Adams were both Christians from what I have read elsewhere. I read somewhere that

    John Adams was a Unitarian. The Rev. Billy Wilson probably regarded anyone whose religion was a mixture of Deism and Christianity as an infidel.

    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/john-adams

    "...the founders of our nation were nearly all Infidels, and that of the presidents who had thus far been elected {George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, John Quincy Adams, and Andrew Jackson}, not a one had professed a belief in Christianity...

    When the war was over and the victory over our enemies won, and the blessings and happiness of liberty and peace were secured, the Constitution was framed and God was neglected. He was not merely forgotten. He was absolutely voted out of the Constitution. The proceedings, as published by Thompson, the secretary, and the history of the day, show that the question was gravely debated whether God should be in the Constitution or not, and after a solemn debate he was deliberately voted out of it.... There is not only in the theory of our government no recognition of God's laws and sovereignty, but its practical operation, its administration, has been conformable to its theory. Those who have been called to administer the government have not been men making any public profession of Christianity... Washington was a man of valor and wisdom. He was esteemed by the whole world as a great and good man; but he was not a professing Christian...

    [Sermon by Reverend Bill Wilson (Episcopal) in October 1831, as published in the Albany Daily Advertiser the same month it was made]”
    ― Bird Wilson
     
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    I don't know why people regard death in old age as such a bad thing. One's quality of life diminishes with age and death is the end of all pain. If I have a terrible and incurable disease in old age

    I hope that doctor assisted suicide is available.
     
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    Uggg!!! The founding document of the United States of America is the Declaration of Independence. It's why we broke away from the tyrants of England. There would be no Constitution without the Declaration of Independence. We are endowed by our creator. In other words, we have received a great gift from God. The opportunity to establish a country with the right to our own self-sufficiency, liberty to believe in our creator without interference from our government and to pursue happiness from our own individual efforts. The Bill of Rights are to protect the people from tyrants in the government. The most recent tyrants are Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Jerry Nadler and many others trying to fundamentally change our government into a Soviet-style Politburo with one body of government and the premiere chairman president. That's what will happen if the Democrats are successful with ending the filibuster and packing the U.S. Supreme Court with 4 communist jurists. The two houses of congress will be exactly the same body. The courts will be puppets of the congress and the puppet president. Without a Constitutional amendment, the Democrats will destroy the Constitution. Exactly what you want so they can outlaw Jesus Christ taught to anyone. I'm sure Allah is safe.
     

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