Arab illegal building on lands that Jews bought

According to Surah 5:59-60, the words "apes and pigs" is reffered to the people of the scripture:

Where do you see here something about the Sabbath?
in 5:69. it describes specifically that those who turned into "apes and pigs" are the "people of the scripture, i.e. the Jews.

This number of killed Arabs is disputed because in numerous places the number changes from place to place. The number if different in the UN report, and in a report of a "Palestinian" source is way higher.
There is places that say 1,500 were killed and some places say more then 2000 were killed, and yet not in one place there is a distribution of who is a terrorist and who is a civilian that were killed, in all reports it reffered whole of the 2000 or 1500, or 1750 and so to be all civilians.

And yet it didnt stopped them to publish stuff in the world that help the de-legitimization of Israel and people from all over the world to believe in them.
Will Hamas could ever eliminate Israel by force? It is a clear no, but who said that they want to destroy Israel by force (which means by war)?

 

I like <co-existence> every people in its own realm.
This is why 77% of the Mandate was assigned to the Arabs which became Jordan and 79% of the population of Jordan are of Arabs that left Israel in 1948 and now they use takyah = deceit stating we threw them out when in reality they listened to the orders of five Arab armies who begged them to temporarily leave not to be in the cross fire.

 

so you're saying all Arabs are liars?

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Israel gives retro-active building permits to Jews, but not to Arabs.

why?

 

Most of them including those in Sasson report haven't been dismantled.

I didn't state settlements like Yitzhar, Itamar, and Hebron is view of the state. I pointed out views of the chief rabbis in those settlements an important figure/leader in these settlements. This affects the conflict since these settlements are known for harassing and attacking Palestinians often causing injury or in the latest attack causing death of a baby or often attacking their property like attacking their olive groves with most of them not caught and is part of why as long as occupation exists there isn't peace for both sides.

 

not only has Israel not demolished many illegal Jewish settlements, but they have even given many retro-active building permits.

but they NEVER do this for Arabs.

looks like racism.

 

This comment has nothing to do with what I said.
You cant reply to my comment, so instead you prefer to repeat yourself and write stuff that I already replied and we already talked about.

 

but its a fact, that while Israel perpetually delays demolishing illegal Jewish construction and often gives them retro-active building permits, they rush to demolish illegal Arab construction and NEVER give them retro-active building permits.

this is proof of Israeli Apartheid and racism in the West Bank.

 

Hebron? as the Jewish community of Hebron? The Jewish community in Hebron has historical proofs of which this community has bought the lands they live on, according to the report of Eyal Benbenisti and Eyal Zamir "The Legal Status of Lands Acquired by Israelis before 1948 in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem".

Moreover, according to the goverment report- Levy report, the settlements in Judea and Samaria are legal and the law of occupation doesnt apply on Israel regarding it's presence in Judea and Samaria, as I showed here numerus of times.

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Please re-read my last comment to you.

 

The Levy Report is merely an opinion, and is not legally binding.

The Israeli Supreme Court, the UN Security Council, and the International Court of Justice, have all declared that the West Bank is under Israeli Occupation and all the Geneva Conventions and 1907 Hague Conventions apply.

sorry, but you lost that debate months ago.

as for settlements, while Israel perpetually delays demolishing illegal Jewish construction and often gives them retro-active building permits, they rush to demolish illegal Arab construction and NEVER give them retro-active building permits.

this is racism.

 

According to the UN Charter, ICJ 2004 (the latest one), Levy report (which is a governmantal report that the Israeli government needs to respect) and numerous of international laws the Land of Israel (including the West Bank) is for the Jews to have and to reconstitute their national home.

How it is racism if "races" dont exist?

 

Israel is uner no legal obligation whatsoever, to follow the advice of the Levy Report.

But they are legally bound by UN Security Council resolutions, the Geneva Conventions, and the 1907 Hague Conventions.

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haha!!!! funny Red Herring.

racism, bigotry, prejudice, call it what you like.

its still discrimination. Just like the Nuremberg Laws.

 

so therefore Jews don't need construction permits?

only non-Jews do? lolol!!

like I said, racist policies.

 

lol!!! Israel knows that racism exists. In fact racial discrimination and incitement is illegal in Israel.

Israel has broad anti-discrimination laws that prohibit discrimination by both government and nongovernment entities on the basis of race, religion, and political beliefs, and prohibits incitement to racism.[5] The Israeli government and many groups within Israel have undertaken efforts to combat racism. Israel is a state-party to the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination, and is a signatory of the Convention against Discrimination in Education. Israel's President Reuven Rivlin announced to a meeting of academics in October 2014 that it is finally time for Israel to live up to its promise as a land of equality, time to cure the epidemic of racism.

According to the State Department, Israel's anti-discrimination law "prohibits discrimination on the basis of sex, marital status, or sexual orientation. The law also prohibits discrimination by both government and nongovernment entities on the basis of race, religion, political beliefs, and age."

Israel is a signatory of the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination treaty since 1966, and has ratified the treaty in 1979.[234] The treaty forbids any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Israel

 

The UN charter does not say that. Article 80 which is part of the chapter of international trustee system(West Bank is not under any international trustee which means this chapter doesn't apply to West Bank). This is what article 80 says below

"Except as may be agreed upon in individual trusteeship agreements, made under Articles 77, 79, and 81, placing each territory under the trusteeship system, and until such agreements have been concluded, nothing in this Chapter shall be construed in or of itself to alter in any manner the rights whatsoever of any states or any peoples or the terms of existing international instruments to which Members of the United Nations may respectively be parties.
Paragraph 1 of this Article shall not be interpreted as giving grounds for delay or postponement of the negotiation and conclusion of agreements for placing mandated and other territories under the trusteeship system as provided for in Article 77."
http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter12.shtml
This article says that while an area is under international trustee and until those agreements are concluded nothing can be done to alter the rights of any people or status in those areas. Again West Bank is not under an international trustee systems which means article 80 doesn't apply.

The ICJ doesn't say that at all. The ICJ ruled that Israel is an occupying power in the West Bank and that settlements violate it's obligations as an occupying power citing several UNSC resolutions. Here is all article 73 of 2004 decision says "In the 1967 armed conflict, Israeli forces occupied all the territories which had constituted Palestine under British Mandate (including those known as the West Bank, lying to the east of the Green Line)".
It's noting the territory Israel controlled after 67 war. Anything else you say are your own words and opinion. The ICJ is not citing the British mandate document since it's not quoting it or even mentioning the document and simply noting that after 67 war Israel was in control of the historic borders of Palestine under the British mandate.
http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/B59ECB7F4C73BDBC85256EEB004F6D20#sthash.GBb5aw4l.dpuf

The Levy report is the only source you mentioned that actually says the settlements are legal and that Jews have the right to settle West Bank. The Levy report is non binding as it's a recommendation. The report was criticized by many with former Israeli official Talia Sasson who authorized the Sasson report and which Levy report went against; Sasson noted that the Levy report went against decades of Supreme Court ruling Israel as an occupying power(the Levy report said Israel is not an occupying power). Unlike the Levy report, the Supreme Court is binding. The report also has biased members since former Supreme Court justice Edmund Levy was a justice that write a minority opinion against ten judges for ruling regarding disengagement and Alan Baker a settler who was an official for Israeli foreign ministry. There is nothing in international laws that says a religious/ethnic group has the sole right over any land. Sovereignty and self determination is considered guiding principles on international law regarding control over land. Also no one(except for extremists of course) says that Jews don't have a right to a home. Recognition of Israel's declaration of independence in 1948 and state and gov formed after 48 war by most countries is why Jews have a home in the form of Israel. As you have pointed state of Israel is here to stay;Jews being denied a home is not the issue here.

 

[MENTION=60747]stuntman[/MENTION] actually claims that since the West Bank is not under Israeli soverignty, its still governed by the Palestine Mandate, which means all Jews have the right to settle in all of Palestine and ONLY Jews have the right to any soverignty over any part of Palestine.

its a pretty absurd POV, I know.

 

So the Israeli government doesnt need to respect and follow their own reports?

Racism does not exist. It's only a social convention without any scientific proofs.
According to Cavalli-Sforza, the father of Genetic anthropology, which means whereby his the decisive word in this field in his researches he came to a conclusion that "races" dont exist:

Source: https://alumni.stanford.edu/get/page/magazine/article/?article_id=40759

Please both of you watch this:
[video=vimeo;16094246]https://vimeo.com/16094246[/video]

 

lol!!!!! what an absurd statement. so you're saying Apartheid didn't happen?

Segregation in the USA didn't happen?

there are no racist Neo-Nazis???

lol!!!

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Governments issue reports all the time. They only must be followed if they are legally binding.

Levy Report isn't legally binding. Its just a silly racist opinion.

 

Apharteid has nothing to do with "races". People refer to Apharteid as "racal segregation", but they refer it like that because "race"/"racial"/"racism" etc. is a social convention. There is no one scientfic proof about the existance of "races".
Apharteid happened and relied on the idea that it have to be segragation between people with different skin color- to seperate people from different groups of color from one another because people assumed that the white people are more importent from others like black, asian etc. (like what happened in South Africa).
Different skin color is not a sign of "races".

No there are no racist New-Nazis, because "races" does not exist.

It cant be "racist" because "racism", "races" dont exist.

The Levy report is relying on the international law, international conventions, experts of international law etc on their conclusion.

 

statements like this, make your views kinda irrelevent.

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The Levy Report is not legally binding.

UNSC resolutions and the judgement of the Israeli Supreme Court, are legally binding on Israel.

Israel is bound by law, to follow UNSC resolutions and judgements of the Israeli Supreme Court. They are not bound by any law to follow the Levy Report.

sorry, you lost the debate,

 

"Races" do not exist. You like it? good. You dont like it? good, but it doesnt make "races" exist- there are no proofs for "races".

You are just repeating yourself. I already replied to such statements of your in my last comment. Please re-read comments 66# and 68#.

 

http://www.jta.org/2014/05/27/news-...srael-adopting-some-provisions-of-levy-report

and look how Israel is using the Levy Report to justify breaking the law

"Israel will be decreasing its efforts to evict Jewish settlers from privately owned Palestinian land"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levy_Report#Implementation_of_the_Levy_Report

"Besides not to remove settlers from private Palestinian land..."

 

a scientifically viable taxonimic group for humans known as races may not actually exist, but RACISM does exist.

its silly and absurd to deny this. Even Israel has joined the International Convention against Racism. And racist incitement is illegal in Israel. so please, stop beating this dead horse cause you have lost.

 

Racism is mistreatment of people because of their "race", hence, if races dont exist racism cant exist as well.

If Israel joined international convention against Racism, it doesnt mean necessarily that Racism exist. If someone wil consider you as a white shark, does it mean that you are a white shark?

 

so you're saying Israel are idiots? they joined the International Convention against Racism and make racist incitement illegal, but you say racism doesn't exist.

 

When and where did I say that Israel are idiots? I only say that racism does not exist.