Are you buying organic foods?

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  1. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There aren't as many specific intent crimes as people seem to think. While I do not agree with the state of the laws on the subject, I fear you are wrong.
     
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    That is why I said "SHOULD COME TO NOTHING BAD." There are laws which our government have made which only for dinosaurs.
     
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    I just watched a video by a farmer in South Dakota. He uses no fertilizer inputs other than cover crops, no herbicides or pesticides and he is very profitable. He also uses livestock and sells the beef. It is a system that works with nature. He brought the organic matter in his soil from less than 2% to over11%.
     
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    We have to change our minds first.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is great for him, but he is a livestock farmer so he gets a lot of inputs to his program for free....and he lives in South Dakota. Right now manure is a waste product that livestock people generally will gladly give away. Create enough demand for it, and they are going to start charging for it. I am all for doing it when possible, but there is the issue of scalability across a whole huge industry. The guy you saw also does not live in a very warm climate. Where I live, it was in the 90's today with near 100% humidity and the ground is nasty red clay 365 a year. There will be insects galore, fungi and other diseases galore in fairly short order attacking crops. I guess i should add to it depending on the grower's needs, the availability of other resources to the grower.
     
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    Actually he lives in South Dakota and if you Google Gabe Brown you should find a video he has done. It is very informative. He claims it can work in any climate. He also talks about insects and he claims you need to provide a habitat for the predictor insects. As far as hard clay goes I feel for pain. I live in Alabama and my ground is rock. To soften clay soil manure is the best. This morning I acquired another pickup load of horse manure. I have three piles heating now. I can get all I want for free. I do believe a good gardener or farmer grows good soil. I have been adding soil on top of my garden and now have a thriving earthworm population growing so even this rock can become productive. In southern soils leaching of nutrients is a major problem during the cool season and a cover crop will reduce leaching. I have also built a display to sell plants and they are simply painted used tires filled with dirt and planted. They are filled with aged manure mixed with dirt placed right on top of rock. I get compliments all the time. If you improve the soil good growing plants will follow. I no longer till.....just mulch with whatever I can find wood chips, pine straw, etc.
     

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