Are You Racist if you do not like black people?

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by ElDiablo, Dec 27, 2015.

  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    prove it
     
  2. ElDiablo

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    The danger in all this mess...is a threat to our liberty.....as in 'thought crimes' as in 'thought police'......what we are approaching is a totolitarian state that will punish your for what they think you are thinking....England is way out in front on this....all being don in the name of political correctness.

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    Prove dey don't. hehheh

    and whilst u be doning dat.....explain ............Why is the n-word so popular with many young black kids today?
     
  3. Ronstar

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    its your claim, bro.

    no evidence? means its false.
     
  4. ElDiablo

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    Not nessacarily.....the internet is censored........when it first started you could search any item and get all sorts of varied opinions....now the search engines are censored....soon we will be like china....and the internet will be worthless except for playing video games etc. We are approaching a new world....it will not be a pretty one....you think there is racism now....what we are approaching is a new world with a new form of slavery....wont be based on race....but it will be more widespread than racial slavery.

    Irregardless....I have posted enough material to show the controversy regarding negro vs. african american vs. black.

    So it is not an open and shut case....especially when you have a black congressman along with many others saying negro is an acceptable woid....just like in The Negro College Fund, like in the Negroid Race being listed as one of the 3 main races...etc.etc. and so on and so forth.

    http://prejudiceanddiscrimination.com/what-do-black-people-want-to-be-called-2/
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so your claim is baseless and unsupported.

    gotcha
     
  6. Moriah

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    Because when the organization was founded many years ago, Negro was the term in use. Today, African-American is the term in use. As I'm sure you well know. When I see a White person call African-Americans Negro nowadays, I know it is just to be mean.
     
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    its pretty simple. i know some blacks dont mind when their white "friends" use the N word but were a stranger to use it then its pretty obvious offense was intended. same here, i may get a pass for using it, although i wouldnt but if some of the "known" ppl here did then we would all come down on them like a ton of bricks. its not brain surgery is it.
     
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    personally I think they should change the name.... but that is just me

    as for the topic, one can dislike a black person, a white person, ect.... and not be racist, as long as they don't only not like them because of their race

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    Yes, that is the key issue. If you dislike someone because of their race you are a racist. Disliking someone as an individual who just so happens to be of another race is fine.
     
  10. Moriah

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    Hi FreshAir.1) Maybe they should change the name; I wouldn't mind getting rid of the word Negro in public use. 2) Of course we can dislike an indivisual person without being a racist. This question reminds me of one that was popular the first time Obama was running for President. People would ask "Am I racist if I don't vote for Obama?" Of course not. What a silly question.
     
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    A rose by any other name would smell as sweet

    A rose by any another name is still a rose

    A rose is a rose is a rose


    Which brings us to the ultimate truth of course....................the names of things do not affect what they really are.

    Which illustrates one of the great errors by so called black leaders.......to be specific Jesse Jackson who came and proclaimed blacks want to be called 'African Americans' did he do a poll or what? heh heh In fact it was just a political ploy.

    Now on the other hand MalcomX preferred the term black.....a bit more honest but still a political ploy....the term 'Afro-American' was in vouge for a lil while...i forget the history of that one and the associated hair-do.....the 'Afro'.

    Now let us consider for a moment the orginal meaning of the word or term 'Negro'. Where did it come from what did it mean?
     
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    The word Negro was adopted from Spanish and Portuguese and first recorded from the mid 16th century. It remained the standard term throughout the 17th-19th centuries and was used by such prominent black American campaigners as W. E. B. DuBois and Booker T. Washington in the early 20th century. Since the Black Power movement of the 1960s, however, when the term black was favored as the term to express racial pride, Negro has dropped out of favor and now seems out of date or even offensive in both US and British English. The 2010 US Census questionnaire was criticized when it retained the racial designation Negro as an option (along with Black and African Am.). The Census Bureau defended its decision, citing the 2000 Census forms, on which more than 56,000 individuals handwrote “Negro” (even though it was already on the form). Apparently, Negro continues to be the identity strongly preferred by some Americans.
     
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    A rose by any other name would smell as sweet

    A rose by any another name is still a rose

    A rose is a rose is a rose


    Which brings us to the ultimate truth of course....................the names of things do not affect what they really are.

    Which illustrates one of the great errors by so called black leaders.......to be specific Jesse Jackson who came and proclaimed blacks want to be called 'African Americans' did he do a poll or what? heh heh In fact it was just a political ploy.

    Now on the other hand MalcomX preferred the term black.....a bit more honest but still a political ploy....the term 'Afro-American' was in vogue for a lil while...i forget the history of that one and the associated hair-do.....the 'Afro'.

    Now let us consider for a moment the orginal meaning of the word or term 'Negro'. Where did it come from what did it mean?

    The word Negro was used in the English-speaking world to refer to a person of black ancestry or appearance. Negro denotes "black" in Spanish and Portuguese, derived from the ancient Latin word niger, (pronounced Ny..ger)meaning black, which itself is probably from a Proto-Indo-European root *nekw-, "to be dark", akin to *nokw-, night.

    Around 1442, the Portuguese first arrived in Southern Africa while trying to find a sea route to India. The term negro, literally meaning 'black', was used by the Spanish and Portuguese as a simple description to refer to the Bantu peoples that they encountered. From the 18th century to the late 1960s, 'negro' was considered to be the proper English-language term for people of black African origin.

    Negro superseded colored as the most polite word for African Americans at a time when black was considered more offensive. This word was accepted as normal, including by people classified as Negroes, until the late 1960s, One well-known example is the identification by Martin Luther King, Jr. of his own race as "Negro" in his famous speech of 1963, "I Have a Dream".

    Considering all of the above one must wonder how did the term or woid 'Negro' become offensive...at least to the politically correct?

    Well, the excuse that is given....being--it is associated with a period of supposed oppression...many can show that is another mis-nomer but it would require to much time and space to get into that one.

    Anyhow....no matter how you look at it....a very nubulous claim ....there are many woids and terms one can associate with the early history of Negroes in America....but would it make any sense to declare all of them 'offensive' of course not and not even to mention all of the coinfusion that would result.

    Basically the word became offensive to some out of ignorance not knowing or understanding the meaning of the word.....they thought that it was just another form of the infamous n woid that is banned likewise the the term '(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)rdly' which has no racial connotation at all(also you see how the programmed asterisks pop in here and block out the woid which rhymes with jiggardly...it means nothing more than someone being very careful with their money)...but one politician lost his job for saying it in a budget meaning. PC does tend to run amok.

    The fact is the word 'Negro' was seized on to be used as a 'political tool' because it was the root word for the infamous N woid that is strictly verboten for all except young blacks ....they seem to prefer it. But that is another story.

    Anyhow....this notion that 'Negro' is offensive...(even though during the period of history associated with that word....it was the polite way to refer to Blacks....as the most common reference to blacks by blacks and whites was again the infamous n-woid.) Upper class whites, the more educated and the politicians all considered 'Negro' to be a polite way of referring to blacks and that was the term in use in higher society.

    Yet today this once polite term has been transformed by politics into a offensive woid for many....is that any way to better or improve racial relations? In truth and in fact racial relations have regressed in the last few decades particuarly since obama got into office.

    The irony of all this is that Negro means 'black' in french and portuguese which is where the woid came from....of course this not understood by those who claim to be offended....being offended by a word that means 'black' yet they want to be called 'black'....talk about playing semantics............have we fallen down a rabitt hole or whut?

    I would be remiss If I did not discuss somewhat...the perception or the perceived mindset of someone using a supposedly offensive woid....like young blacks preferring the infamous and banned N-woid. ok for them supposed because they consider a term of indearment.


    Wheras any white using it...deserves the death penalty because obviously (using esp to determine this)they mean it in an insulting way.

    Someday ...not that far down the road....someone will start to proclaim that the term African American is insulting...that white folk who say it mean it is an insult.

    And so the beat goes on...what will they want to be called next?
     
  14. Egalitarianjay02

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    ElDiablo,

    Are you done ranting? Most people here know the origin and meaning of the word Negro. We are an educated bunch. The N-Word derives from Negro and is a word used to refer to dark-skinned people as well. Should it be ok to use that word too? At one point in time it was actually normal speech for Whites to use the N-word. It may have been considered polite at one time to say Negro but it's not any more. If you hear some speeches by Malcolm X he says "so-called Negro." He didn't like the word Negro because it carried racial baggage. He wanted to reclaim the word Black (it is an English word afterall) or use the term Afro-American (later African-American). In any case there is no reason to fret over the use of a word. You are not going to get people to accept it and you have no credibility for wanting to improve race-relations when you have come on this board spreading racist propaganda. Also Obama is not the cause of the deterioration in race-relations. His Presidency has awakened the ugly side of America that is the conservatives and White Supremacists who do not want a Black President and who are expressing their hatred through conspiracy theories about the President. Also thanks to the internet there is a greater awareness about hate crimes and police brutality so America's racism is becoming more apparent. This isn't new. We had a lot of racial problems in America in the 1990s and of course it was much worse in previous decades.
     
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    Asians used to be called "Mongoloids".

    does that mean its should still be ok to call them this?

    of course not.

    these silly games need to end
     
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    Well you see, there are 2 kinds of racists these days. Those who are actually racist, and believe they are genetically superior all other races because of their shiny white skin (idiots), then you have those who are accused of being racist because they don't adhere to a liberal worldview.

    Some examples:
    I don't believe I'm genetically superior to anyone else's race, BUT I'm white and I don't believe Micheal Brown was a gentle giant, so of course I must be a racist.

    Another example, Donald Trump says Mexico isn't sending their best citizens, and even says that some of the people who are coming here illegally are rapists. How does BSNBC and the like report the story?
    "Trump says all Mexicans are rapists!"

    And yet another, Bill Cosby says black america can't constantly blame whitey anymore for their troubles, and should look in a mirror sometime...so of course Bill must be an Uncle Tom.

    Baltimore - many of the cops accused in Freddie Gray's death were black - didn't stop anyone from saying it was racially motivated. Forensic evidence proved Officer Darren Wilson was innocent, didn't stop anyone from calling him a racist anyway. And in one shooting, people were protesting that a guy was caught on camera pointing a loaded gun at a cop, and the cop shot him first. This happened shortly after Ferguson, and people were even protesting THAT, an obvious case of self preservation, but guess what? The cop was white, and the criminal black, so once again, MUST BE RACISM!

    God, people sicken me.
     
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    Is it racist to assume all whites are racist? No, I didn't say you said that, but your response was all kinds of wrong. RACISM means you believe you are genetically superior, just because someone doesn't want to hang out with this or that group of people doesn't mean they believe they are superior. If you don't believe me, ask my good friend Meriam Webster. If I don't want to hang out with people with freckles, that's my damned right. Perhaps Obama should sign a new executive order forcing everyone to have at least 1 gay friend, 1 black friend, and on and on. Something tells me you'd support that in a heartbeat.
     
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    If you hold someone's race against them you are a racist plain and simple.

    And since you want to cite the dictionary.....

    Racism

    n.

    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to dominate others or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.

    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.


    Anyone can be racist and there are varying degrees of racism. You don't have to think your group is racially superior to be racist you just have to be hateful or intolerant of another race or other races.
     
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    A fair response, here's an honest question:

    If you are white, and you live in an area full of gangsters, and you would like to hang out with said gangsters because you have some things in common with them, like smoking bud, but that's where the similiarities end, are you a racist for not wanting to hang out with dangerous people for your own safety? What if you realize that not all black people are like the people where you live, but you know danged well the ones you've met in your area are dangerous? That's all I'm getting at, I'd love to hang out with all different kinds of people, but if they appear to be dangerous, of course I'm not there. Doesn't matter if it's a gangsta or a piece of white trash. I honestly want to know if you or anyone else thinks that is racist? And no, I won't get mad if you say yes because hell, I asked the question, lol.

    BTW, I honestly had no idea the modern day dictionary had more than just the "supremicist" point of view of racism, my apologies.
     
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    So if you only have a plurality in a country no one can be racist because of numbers?

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    So how has that occurred online?
     
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    So, like...

    ... are blacks racist...

    ... if they prefer to be around...

    ... their own people...

    ... or don't like whites?
     
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    Yes. Anyone can be racist.
     
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    If you don't want to associate with someone because of their behavior that is not racist. You are judging them by the content of their character.

    If you are White and you observe some Black gangsters doing some criminal activity or acting hostile and you don't want to be involved with that that is not racist. Disapproving of a behavior is perfectly rational. Holding someone's race against them is not.
     
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    I experience it all the time when I talk to racists. When they aren't restricted by the rules of the website they are on they can say very racist things.

    Example:

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    So you're discriminated on message boards by other members?

    Perhaps you're insulted after you've said members should be killed for their beliefs?

    If online messages toward you are 'discrimination' then you've engaged in terrorism.
     

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