Are you ready for WW3?

Yeah but we sure like to think of ourselves that way. That's got a lot to do with our gun fetish.

 

Beside the location, guns, preps and good health---those with best training---whose who can work with other like-minded people---and most importantly, those with the will and mindset to survive will prevail.

 

Oh my, a return to cooperative living? Now that may be exactly what will allow humanity to go on.

 

Even in a very remote place with lots of game and few people, it will be the elements that will take the most. Others will perish when they try to split wood standing instead on kneeling and place an axe into their foot. Infections and illnesses are other big killers when the grid goes down.

 

You can't do it by yourself.

 

Or are reduced to eating each other.

 

Absolutely, modern "capitalists" have no concept of that in human evolution.

 

Agreed. Let all those global US corporations hire their own armies to protect their trade routes.

 

While I agree with you, if you had to choose the 3 most important factors for survival what would they be?

For example, I would chose:
1. Rural location( for hunting & fishing/ food
2. good health ( military training isn't as much good when you're on heart meds or Oxygen
3. Guns( obvious

 

Nope, that's what "the people" are for. To provide socialism for the funding and bodies for the dying, it's the american way.

 

Mark my words, the first thing many americans with guns will do is take what they can from the homes of their neighbors before heading to the bush.

 

Subsistence living might not be possible in a vast majority of the country. The competition for wild food would literally be deadly. OTOH, small communities which banded together to raise pigs, chickens and crops might have a much better chance of survival against scavengers.

 

Socialism doesn't work above the tribal level. Every adult with a decent education knows this to be true.

 

And you think the corporate state will just allow citizens to live on their own as free people? For a change?

 

It works quite well for the american aristocracy. Ask Wall Street.

 

Nice straw man argument. I'm against "the corporate state". That's just another form of authoritarianism. I favor a Republic with a regulated capitalist economy. You?

 

You bailed out Wall Street with socialism twice and the entire planet witnessed it. Favor whatever you like, whutcha got is:

Privatized gains versus versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profits versus externalized risk and expense for the "job creator" class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses

 

Let's hope we never have to find out.

 

Good thought with the operative term being:

Again, let's do everything we can to avoid finding out what a post WW3 world would be like.

 

Yes, there are many variables involved such as the exact level of collapse. Are water and power plants still operational?

 

Agreed, we need this kind of violence limited to the police.

 

Just discussing this scenario should make us appreciate how luck we are in this country.
We should do everything we can to avoid a nuclear exchange

 

Agreed. Going to foreign countries and seeing how shitty it is in the less developed parts of the world, which is a lot of it, made me appreciate coming home.

As for a nuclear exchange, doubtful it would have happen. Although I believe most of us will live to see a nuclear weapon used in anger, I doubt it will be in a war. More likely a terrorist act in a foreign city.

 

You totally dodged the point - maybe because it derails your argument?

Why does the USA still have so many troops in Europe? Since the early 1990's when the Cold War ended, conservatives have argued for reducing USA military presence in Europe to a much smaller more moderate force and let the Europeans bear the burden of defending themselves. Since Bill Clinton, and overwhelmingly since Bush '43's little foray into Irag, conservatives have argued strongly against "nation building" and immediate conversion of the world to "democracy". It wasn't conservatives that forced the "Arab Spring" onto formerly stable nations in Northern Africa and turned them into bastions of terrorism and chaos. It wasn't conservatives that got in bed with the Russians (that was obama, and then Hilary and the DNC).

Its not conservatives who are demanding a huge military presence all over the world, and insisting the USA stick its nose in all the worlds business.

 

Look pard, I'm not into all this partisanshit nonsense, so I have no need to make this about this party or that. Obama took Bush's 2 bogus wars and turned e'm into 7. No argument at all. Obama ramped up droning, Hilary is and endless war monger. Again, no argument at all.

So who is at the wheel now and why aren't they undoing the mess?

Because the whole thing is utterly bipartisan and it is simply wealth extraction and concentration.