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Arthur Jones? This should end the debate in Nazis being left or right.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Kode, Mar 21, 2018.

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, global communists fell apart when the USSR died due to bankruptcy as a result of the arms race with the USA
     
    Ronstar, Mar 21, 2018
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, they vote for the Green Party
     
    Ronstar, Mar 21, 2018
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  3. Brewskier

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    Stalin put a stop to them. Nationalism is what prevented the kind of continuous worldwide revolutions that guys like Trotsky advocated for.
     
    Brewskier, Mar 21, 2018
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    Boom
     
    Lesh, Mar 21, 2018
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    Is this you backpeddling because opposition to Holocaust denial is a sacred cow of both liberals and conservatives and that the only people for it are “white nationalists” (using the politically correct term instead of White Supremacists) and Nazis (but now I’m being redundant)?
     
    Questerr, Mar 21, 2018
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    The ones that want to give their vote to the Republican votes green party. The Smart Ones vote Democrat.
     
    RiseAgainst, Mar 21, 2018
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    Hilarious. A ‘former’ Nazi party member. Guess that means we know whether the KKK is left or right since the dems voted in a former KKK member.
     
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    I’m not back pedaling at all. Just because I think it’s a sacred cow on the left doesn’t mean mainstream conservatives can’t be opposed to it for almost certainly different reasons.

    You seem to have a real problem understanding multi layered issues.
     
    Brewskier, Mar 21, 2018
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    This sort of thing is explained by horseshoe Theory. Socialism is but a step toward communism. Communism is far left Nazis were socialists. So the fact that they share a lot more in common with fascists rather than liberals and conservatives is no real surprise.

    Neither socialism/communism or fascism can exist without authoritarian regimes. That is the problem not right or left
     
    Polydectes, Mar 21, 2018
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    Ddyad and AltLightPride like this.
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    Why did your post imply the only reason a mainstream Republican would oppose Holocaust denial is money?
     
    Questerr, Mar 21, 2018
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    if not for the New Deal there would have been a Communist revolution in the USA.

    a chicken in every pot and jobs, is what prevents Communism from taking over.
     
    Ronstar, Mar 21, 2018
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    Mr. Schneider, you mean?
     
    Brewskier, Mar 21, 2018
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    Sounds like wishful thinking.
     
    Brewskier, Mar 21, 2018
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    no, its a fact. A happy and healthy Middle Class is what keeps Communism from rising up and taking over.
     
    Ronstar, Mar 21, 2018
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    Because it proves that he used to be a Nazi, and unless you have a serious case to make on why he's not a Nazi anymore it means he's still a Nazi.

    That he said "I don't call myself a Nazi" is a joke. Everyone knows Nazis call themselves National Socialists.
     
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    oh, he's 100% Nazi
     
    Ronstar, Mar 21, 2018
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    "Used to be"...but has exactly the same beliefs that he had then...
     
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    What keeps fascism from taking over?
     
    RiseAgainst, Mar 21, 2018
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    The Constitution...as long as Congress does the right thing
     
    Lesh, Mar 21, 2018
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    I used to be a normie conservative. So what? People can change their affiliations. Plus, simply speaking at an event doesn’t mean he adopts the views of the group who invited him. That’s called guilt by association.
     
    Brewskier, Mar 21, 2018
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    Which is why you’re at war with the Middle class.
     
    Brewskier, Mar 21, 2018
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  22. Ronstar

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    Fascism allows the wealthy corporations to keep their control over the people, therefore it is a poor solution to mass poverty and economic inequality.

    Socialism is much more attractive as it brings the power of the economy under the control & ownership of the people, not wealthy corporatists. It confiscates massive corporate farms and distributes them to the unemployed people.
     
    Ronstar, Mar 21, 2018
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    He did and does...a lot more than that.

    He's a Nazi. No one is fooled and you're being dishonest
     
    Lesh, Mar 21, 2018
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    I'm not at war with the Middle Class, I want it to grow tremendously.
     
    Ronstar, Mar 21, 2018
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no its called not having your damn head in the sand and ignoring reality.
     
    Ronstar, Mar 21, 2018
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