As Covid deaths approach a quarter of a million...

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  1. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Excuse me for a second, but:
    :roflol:

    And this children is how Trump saved us from being much worse than Mexico.
     
  2. Xyce

    Xyce Well-Known Member

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    Well, I won this argument.

    Thanks for playing.
     
  3. HockeyDad

    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes I remember when the health professionals said that it was more important that minorities "peacefully protest" rather than worry about spreading the Corona Virus. After that they did that, I quit listening them altogether as did most rational people. It is hard to believe but we once lived in a world where the institutions were not filled with political hacks.
     
  4. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    If they didn't keep social distance, I don't "defend" it, but I realize it's unavoidable. Nothing comparable to the Covid spreading events organizes by Trump. Those had no social distancing AND people wearing masks were mocked AND they were, not only avoidable... they were actually organized by Trump. On purpose!

    So your comparison is nonsense.

    I don't know who "he" is, but he is 100% right!

    Unless you have a rational way in which they could be avoided.

    BTW, social distancing is great. But much more important than that is to wear masks. Few in Turmp's Covid spreading events did. While almost everybody did in during the celebrations.
     
  5. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Pandemic-denialism is born. It will continue to exist alongside moon-landing denialism, 9-11 denialism, flat-earthers, evolution denialism, climate change denialism, and... another famous denialism of something that happened in the 1940s which, out of respect for its victims and their families, shall remain unmentioned.
     
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  6. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's not a question of being "important" or not. They were unavoidable. Trump is responsible for the death of Americans by not avoiding infections by implementing recommendations in avoidable scenarios.

    Learn the difference!
     
  7. Xyce

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    It's not unavoidable to celebrate. That's actually not a thing. But I guess this is keeping with the Democratic ethos against personal responsibility.




    But you're right: it's not comparable. Trump and Republicans are not hypocritical when it comes to social distancing and mask-wearing, whereas the Democrats are. Democrats are the party that threaten people with the iron fist of the government if you don't follow their COVID rules, but will flout those same rules, thus giving the rest of us the middle finger. Therefore, due to Democrat hypocrisy, which is par for the course, Democrats are worse in this comparison.


    Yes.

    Don't celebrate.

    If you're going to make the rest of us endure the draconian overreach of these government restrictions in response to the pandemic, you can at least follow the same rules.

    Wrong.

    Social distancing is more important than wearing a mask.

    According to UC Davis, social distancing prevents the transmission of the Chinese Virus by 90%, whereas mask-wearing only decreases the risk by 65%. (1) So, no, mask-wearing is not more important, nor is it a substitute.

    Those Democrats that were celebrating were wrong. And they were worse than Republicans not social distancing, since they are the party of lockdowns and talking about the growing COVID numbers and blaming Trump for it, like on this thread; but then don't say anything about their role in the increasing number of COVID cases. You say nothing about how Democrats, through these protests, riots, and celebrations--these glaring hypocrisies--are playing a significant part in the number of COVID cases.

    You blame Trump for the rising COVID cases, but when Democrats get together to spread COVID, you say nothing.

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    Here's Chuck Schumer, the Senate minority leader, without a mask and not socially distanced.



    1. https://health.ucdavis.edu/health-news/newsroom/uc-davis-experts-science-says-wearing-masks-and-social-distancing-slow-covid-19/2020/07#:~:text=“We do know social distancing,community, wear a mask.”
     
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  8. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't know what all these videos are about. But it is unavoidable. People will celebrate. These are unplanned expressions of joy. Completely unlike Trump's Covid spreading events, which were planned and, for that reason, irresponsible.

    I blame Trump for rising Covid cases by mishandling the pandemic. He has shown complete incompetence.

    Of course, Trump making fun of people who attend his rallies wearing a mask was also an irresponsible thing to do. Trump is the President. "Democrats" aren't.
     
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  9. Xyce

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    If you are going to create threads about the rising number of COVID deaths and transmissions, if you are going to argue about how deadly the Chinese Virus is, if you are going to defend the talking point that those who do not follow the mitigating measures of mask-wearing and social-distancing are killing grandma, then you have to unequivocally criticize those Democrats who were celebrating Biden's win.

    But you don't do that. You treat those Democrats like children. You say that they can't help themselves. Them celebrating in the street is completely unavoidable, as if they don't have functional prefrontal cortices fundamental to decision making and social behavior. Therefore, you defend their actions, even though, according to your arguments about the serious deadliness of this disease, their actions may cause thousands of old people to die!

    Your self-righteous concern about this disease is purely a charade. You are simply politically weaponizing this disease against Republicans, since you do not, and will not, censure Democrats who openly and uncaringly violate the laws that they so self-righteously put upon the rest of the country. If you really cared about how deadly this disease supposedly is, you would not even think about defending them; your supposed concern for human life would transcend partisanship.

    I'm done with this conversation.




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    Look at all the masks they're wearing, right? Please.
     
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  10. Golem

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    None of the above. I opened this thread to point out what an incompetent President Trump is. And completely uninterested in doing his job. Trump once said he was a war President.... And he was right. But now he is aiding and abetting the enemy.

    I criticize anybody who doesn't wear a mask when they are within 6 feet of others. I don't care if they're celebrating Biden's win, or they're eating tacos at Chipotle's. I tell them all the same:

    "Wear a f***ng mask, you moron! "

    But that's absolutely irrelevant to this thread.

    And I see you have no defense for this President's incompetence and treasonous behavior (in the war against the pandemic). That means my job is done. Thanks for playing....
     
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