As I said, it is BEHAVIOR, not RACE that gets you shot by the cops...

LOL!!!

I cannot believe that these folks prompting the responses you offered above (good ones, I might add), do not have the informational resources to KNOW (already) what you are telling them.

I'm not buying that BS.

But I will say that part of the solution is reform across the board... to include cameras (on cops, cars and even streets). Also, better qualifications, plus much more strict enforcement of standards and practices upon law enforcement officers. You know... I really don't care that your parents may have raised you to be a bigoted prick... but you'd BETTER do the damned job that the taxpayers have authorized you to do.

 

Agreed.

I didn't say that it was completely irrelevant. As with every topic, conversations can be spun nevertheless.

That is nonsense.

 

Maybe not shot, but definately pulled over and checked out. You see, racial profiling says a well dressed black man like that has no business in a neighborhood of poor people, so he is more than likely to be a drug dealer.

The slang for this, is called riding dirty. There is even a song about it and Chris Rock has done a comedy skit on it called How Not To Get Your Ass kicked By The Police.

 

Leave the mad woman at home.

Unless that guy has specific markings like gang tattoos, he's just a guy with tattoos.

I personally knew a guy who looked really close to that, except he was more muscular for working out a lot. he was a big fan of Arnold Schwarzenegger. he was actually a pretty gentle guy, and really loved cats.

And no, I'm not making a joke, even though Chris Rock did in one skit.

I can't post that here because it has some pretty foul language to it.

 

again, that is incorrect according to the study conducted in the video I posted earlier

..but I think you're missing the bigger point, people can be profiled by the kind of clothes they wear too.. which is also problematic. So too is black people being profiled for their skin color, and that's the big difference between when white people are profiled and when black people are profiled. When white people are profiled it is usually because of something external, like the clothes they wear, but black people are often profiled by nothing other than their race. While it is true that a black man dressed like a rich person is less likely to be profiled than the black person who cannot afford a suit, that does not make the issue any less problematic

profiling people because they are poor or of what is considered a lower class is just as bad as profiling people because of their race

 

You're forgetting psychological profiling.

 

I'm talking about profiling behavior. The window dressing is just a symptom -- if you dress like a thug, there's a good chance you're going to act like a thug, regardless of whether you're riding a Harley with a chest full of tats through rural Tennessee, or bumpin' fat beats in your Delta 88 in South Oakland.

 

There's always the statistic that shows that unarmed people shot by cops are twice as likely to be black.

 

you are perfectly depicting what profiling is in your posts (assuming how someone will behave by how they look)

maybe black people don't dress as "classy" as your average white person, but you should also consider that this is largely due to their financial status/wealth inequality




Being poor does not make you guilty though, the fact of the matter is assuming someone is guilty because of their skin color or how they dress is wrong

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actually it is more like 20 times more likely

 

I posted, on www.americanwx.com, on the "Political Roundtable" that my wife and I teach our children to cooperate with police, and, to quote myself, "if they say 'jump' answer should be 'how high.'" That injunction was found by some to be "alarming."

The government has a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence. Police in general exercise that monopoly. I instruct my loved ones that the police hold many serious cards in an altercation, including weaponry. Enough said.

 

My source said two. Still bad.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/01/black-americans-killed-by-police-analysis

 

Sure, profiling. Whatever you want to call it. Not racial profiling, however.

 

so what then, you think it is okay to profile a black person unless they are wearing a suit and a smile?

your previous post about profiling people if they look like a thug is still unacceptable. Furthermore, you continue to ignore the studies on profiling people by race, as if to say profiling individuals by their race is non-existent, which we know through data and science that it does exist

 

Right. Because statistically the black person is more apt to be a criminal. Will Smith would never be in an inner city on a street corner known for selling heroin.

 

There is a relationship between wealth and hard work. Most people that are lazy and prefer to stay on entitlements tend to not become wealthy.

Racial profiling is a good thing, not a bad thing. If Israel was as sensitive about profiling as America is; half of the Jews in Israel would be slaughtered by now. And if USA cops did a better job of profiling; there would be a lot less crime and a lot fewer criminals on the streets.

 

1. having poor parents means you are likely to grow up poor yourself, not taking issue with this is problematic

2. how many Arabs do you think are killed in comparison to the number of Israelis killed? but that's all okay, just like the black people shot dead by American police officers on a regular basis. Got it

 

but again, it is not right to assume someone is guilty by their appearance alone, such behavior only multiplies the injustices.

 

Do you have 10 more cases like this one?

 

Here Bow to the robots, here is your proof. Need more?

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What if the cops aren't falsely accused? And the accuser isn't on the left? Are you saying there is no case of a cop acting out because of race, ever?

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Case in point 2.

 

The race baiters do not have a very good record of being right.

 

What % need to be right or wrong? Just write if off to better safe than sorry? If there a % of better safe than sorry where it might become meaningful for you to worry about cops acting before thinking? Especially if race is involved?

I understand certain parts of certain cities bring more danger that others, but what is the tipping point? Is there a tipping point? Has it been crossed?

 

Very refreshing, because it's the truth!!

Amen!!

 

That makes no sense.

 

You claimed race as the factor for being shot by police... not behavior.
That's the topic being discussed.
Don't change your argument.... support it.

Me.

 

Police officers are human and as being human are fallible. Sure there are some cops who are racist, they fall into the same line or category as the civilian populace as a whole. To deny that would asinine and untrue.

But the point is racial profiling can be used as part of any investigation. Without knowing anything about a murder, stats from the DOJ from 1980 thru 2008 show that 52.6% of all murderers or those whom committed murder were black. So if the police started to just look for a black man, they would be right 52.6% of the time. Now if we know the murder was committed in the black section of town and a black was killed. We know by DOJ stats that the police should start looking for a black man because 93% of the time the murder was committed by a black.

It is a numbers game. Nothing more or nothing less. Until those crimes committed by blacks start to come down, the murder rate committed by black comes down, racial profiling has it uses. If everything was equal, blacks would only commit 12.6% of all homicides, not 52.6% Whites would commit 74.2% of all murders instead of 45.3% as that is the portion of the population they make up.

It is all about the numbers,